DJ VinylTouch
Please excuse me if I'm missing key information from a Wiki or the manual somewhere, but I've been using the Linked Tracks tab more recently.
I've noticed that two tracks that have been linked to each other are related as follows:
Tracks also can have secondary links, where one track is directly linked to another, and that other track is directly linked to another:
Track A -> Track B -> Track C
Track A will see Track C as a secondary link. I don't think I've seen anything longer than the 2nd level shown in linked tracks (which is ok).
However, if Track B is linked to from another track (call it track D) (Track B now has Track D as a backward link),
Track A -> Track B -> Track C
^^
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Track D
(Sorry Track D should be pointing at Track B in the previous illustration).
I've noticed the following are not showing in the Links tab:
My initial thought was these two cases could be shown (in theory), but they are not. Why is that?
I've noticed that two tracks that have been linked to each other are related as follows:
- The playing/browser track that the link was made from is directly linked to the other track
- The other track has a backwards link to the track mentioned previously (it knows about the other track being a backwards link)
Tracks also can have secondary links, where one track is directly linked to another, and that other track is directly linked to another:
Track A -> Track B -> Track C
Track A will see Track C as a secondary link. I don't think I've seen anything longer than the 2nd level shown in linked tracks (which is ok).
However, if Track B is linked to from another track (call it track D) (Track B now has Track D as a backward link),
Track A -> Track B -> Track C
^^
|
Track D
(Sorry Track D should be pointing at Track B in the previous illustration).
I've noticed the following are not showing in the Links tab:
- Track C does not see Track A
- Track A does not see Track D and vice versa
My initial thought was these two cases could be shown (in theory), but they are not. Why is that?
Inviato Sun 03 Nov 24 @ 11:36 pm
Adion
I think the secondary links are currently only checked in the forward direction, not backwards.
Inviato Mon 04 Nov 24 @ 4:28 am
PhantomDeejay
Yes, secondary links are only two steps FORWARD. Not backwards.
The reasoning behind this is that most of the time, while mixing A>B>C>D goes well, the same can't be said for D>C>B>A (or for any other random order of A,B,C and D for that matter)
Adding a secondary step in backwards links in our tests provided a lot of "noise" (unwanted results that made the usefull info harder to get on the fly)
The reasoning behind this is that most of the time, while mixing A>B>C>D goes well, the same can't be said for D>C>B>A (or for any other random order of A,B,C and D for that matter)
Adding a secondary step in backwards links in our tests provided a lot of "noise" (unwanted results that made the usefull info harder to get on the fly)
Inviato Mon 04 Nov 24 @ 9:07 am
DJ VinylTouch
I understand. So I had the use case where I was kind of using it as Related Tracks, i.e. an older track that is sampled would be a "home track" and everything sampling it would be directly linked to it, with thought that each tracked that sampled the "home track" would see the other tracks via one direct traversal to "home" and then traveling each known backward link to discover the others.
Is that a misuse of the feature?
I did also think of the Remixes tab but
Is that a misuse of the feature?
I did also think of the Remixes tab but
- The track to be discovered via the backward link traversal of the home track is normally not a remix to the starting track
- Remixes (by default) isn't showable alongside the Linked Tracks tab. It's presented as a mutually exclusive choice so I'd probably have to do a skin edit to have them both (please correct me if I'm wrong here)
Inviato Mon 04 Nov 24 @ 1:21 pm
PhantomDeejay
There's no "misuse" if it does what you want it to do for you.
On your case I think all you have to do is once you have a "track with samples of another song" to load it's parent (backward link / home track) and then see all the direct forward links.
It's one extra step for sure, but it could work depending on what you're after.
On your case I think all you have to do is once you have a "track with samples of another song" to load it's parent (backward link / home track) and then see all the direct forward links.
It's one extra step for sure, but it could work depending on what you're after.
Inviato Mon 04 Nov 24 @ 8:00 pm