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iPhone is expensive, just like a Porsche is expensive.

They're way above it, but imo, pound for pound, it's the best new gaming platform available. I hope the iPhones sound quality is a lot better than the iPod. I wasn't too happy

I actually don't have any numbers on PSP or Nintendo DS sales. I was simply thinking out loud that they were doing alright or at least better than most people thought a small form factor gaming device might do.

Regardless, I don't care about either the PSP or DS, we're talking about the iPhone here.



No one said "Mac fanboys". I said Apple employees.

Now, unless you know the people that I know and bought the 360's for that EXACT reason, you probably shouldn't doubt what you don't know anything about.



I didn't say when they had bought them for that reason, now did I?

I first saw and was told about this occurrence over a year ago, well before your claim that analyst's said that 360's were no longer "loss leaders" and definitely during the time that they still were.

I even saw 360's at friends houses that were still boxed up because the owners had no intention of using or owning microsoft products in any way other than for the sole purpose of helping to bury them. They said they would re-sell them only after they were no longer money losers in order to get their money back, admittedly probably at a minor personal financial loss, but it's about the bigger picture anyway.

If you happen to think that's childish, then ask ms's CEO steve ballmer how mature it is for him to publicly comment on the fact that he won't let his kids use Google or iPods:

CNN Money: Do you have an iPod?

steve ballmer: "...at least on this dimension I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod."

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They have their ways of dealing with us, and we have our ways of dealing with them.

This is war. Make NO mistake about it.

Unless you have the relevant industry contacts or credibility in the matters that I speak of, you should just keep watching from the bleachers as those of us who are actually playing "the game" continue to do so Andrew87.

The game's FAR from over and it's getting REALLY fun right now.

The 1st quarter started in 2001 with Unix based Mac OS X and the iPod/iTunes combo. 2nd Quarter started in 2006 with the Intel transition and now Apple TV and iPhone are on the field too. New markets, new phase of the game. The iMac is warming up on the sideline and almost ready to come out to play, followed by Leopard in October and some surprise back-up players in this last half of '07, all leading up to MWSF '08 in January.

The 3rd quarter starts in '08 (summer WWDC, although MWSF in January will NOT be a dissapointment... just not the the start of the 2nd half of the game) and will leave us all speechless.

The quarters are shortening but getting MUCH more intense and exciting as former "supporters" (mostly by default) of the microsoft team switch to Apple's team as they further continue to realize that bigger does not mean better, better means better.

Apple's better.

On a lighter note, here's a funny and fairly well made music video called "Mac or PC": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkrn6ecxthM

[quote=d-v-int]Conquest, you are whats wrong with the Mac using community.

That is all.

i find it funny that people who do not have an iphone complain about things like " viewing a website on that little screen".

the multi-touch and drag interface lets you QUICKLY pinch, spread and zoom into full size websites while dragging them around with your finger very easily. ANY website being viewed with it's layout IN TACT, readable at arms length. try that with windows mobile.

of all these missing features, very few are not fixable with software updates. notably, 3G, lack of infrared, camera zoom, camera flash, GPS receiver, lack of video output, removable battery,.. all of these will not be fixed on THIS phone. nearly every other missing feature is likely to be added via FREE software updates, including mms, a2dp, video recording, etc.

and the end of the world "NO 3G" edge haters always fail to mention that the phone has a really nice WiFi implementation and VPN support included in v1.

it also is really funny how people say the phone is too damn expensive, i've heard that 100 times. it's the SAME EXACT PRICE as my Treo650 was and my HTC 8125! I never heard that once with either of those phones and this iPhone is light years ahead of both of those dinosaurs.

and as far as expensive plans, this plan is actually CHEAPER than my old Cingular plan, which was $150 a month. plus my new iphone plan has unlimted text messaging also (old plan was 2000 txt messages).

i guess hating the iphone is just becoming a new pasttime.

...I'm simple pointing out that I'm a bit dissapointed that they really didn't crush the competition when I know they could if they wanted to.

=D

- iPhone has been out for 10 days.

- Mostly sold out with over 1 million iPhone activations (estimated 40% are non-Mac using, NEW at&T customers) in less than 7 days, and that doesn't mean that only a million were sold (many iPhones that have been bought have not been activated yet) -

^ Yeah. I was going to cancel my script with Sprint and switch to AT&T but I think I will wait for the 2nd gen iPhones. I believe they currently do not have stereo bluetooth avaliable and I use that when I ride my bike.

I also seen that when sending a text and flipping the phone over to the horizontal mode it doesn't switch the keyboard horizontally. Thats another thing that would be a quick fix.