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I have VDJ and I wanna know what mixers are midi compatible with VDJ besides the ones in the Hardware page.
 
Inviato Mon 18 Oct 10 @ 4:38 pm
Hercules RMX & the Hercules family of mixers.
 
yes, seriously go with a hercules RMX. it works perfectly! and really good for beginners-intermediate DJ's. i love it so much i have 2 of them. i've been using them for about a year now. as much as i have to upgrade to CDJ's and an external mixer, i don't want to just because i don't want to give up using my RMX.
 
I had the rmx I am more advanced then that I am looking for something for cd plyers or V7
 
Maybe a little crarification is in order; The Hercules RMX is not (just) a MIDI-mixer per se, it's a mixer/controller/audio-interface combo-device. If you just want a mixer that has the capability to send MIDI-signal in order to control VDJ, then pretty much any MIDI-mixer - or MIDI-device actually - is compatible with VDJ.

Now, if you're asking which controllers and/or sound cards are compatible, it's a compeletely different question. I know, there's a lot of confusing terminology involved with digital DJ'ing and sometimes people in the forum give somewhat off-topic or uninformed advices.
 
So far, the only budget MIDI mixer I have seen is the Behringer DDM 4000. There are many that are arguably better, but you will pay twice the price. The DDM, however does have some limitations, but overall is a great mixer with LOTS of features at a reasonable price.
 
Naturally everyone is entitled to their opinion, but personally I would not recommend DDM4000 - or any other Behringer product, for that matter - even to my worst enemy.
 
AuralCandy.Net wrote :
Naturally everyone is entitled to their opinion, but personally I would not recommend DDM4000 - or any other Behringer product, for that matter - even to my worst enemy.


I respect that...And I was the EXACT same way about Behringer products. Prior to my DDM, I owned a Behringer DJX 750, and it was the most utter piece of crap I had ever experienced. I was VERY skeptical about the DDM4000. But in my experience, I have found it to be a serviceable mixer at a price that hasn't been beat for the features that it provides. I AM willing to say with confidence that this isn't a typical Behringer product. This is possibly the best product that Behringer has put out.

That being said, it still is NOT a "top of the line" mixer such as a Rane, Allen&Heath, Pioneer, etc. It has its quirks (X-fader can't do MIDI and audio at the same time). But I still maintain that it is the best 4 channel MIDI mixer with balanced outputs, sampler, and mic for $500 (or less). It may be the ONLY mixer in that price range that has those features. Naturally, if your pockets run deep, then I suggest going for one of the big boys. But for satisfactory performance on a budget, this mixer is far from the crap Behringer has put out in the past.
 
+1 Behringer DDM4000
Very impressive mixer for the price, there's also an innofader upgrade for it.

If you have a little bit more cash I would recommend the Mackie D2 Pro (The one with the firewire sound interface, just make sure your computer supports firewire) and the Denon DN-X600
 
If you are going to mix video then that Behringer is NOT the way to go. You can't use the cross fader for both audio and video at the same time. Sure you can buy the innofader but then your up to what 500 bucks, might as well save 200 more and get the good stuff!! Search for a used Ecler or a Korg Zero4. Heck the Korg has a built in soundcard!! All I can say is, never settle for the cheaper stuff. Just save your money and get the good to begin with.

Just my thoughts
Huey
 
beatbreaker1 wrote :
If you are going to mix video then that Behringer is NOT the way to go. You can't use the cross fader for both audio and video at the same time. Sure you can buy the innofader but then your up to what 500 bucks, might as well save 200 more and get the good stuff!! Search for a used Ecler or a Korg Zero4. Heck the Korg has a built in soundcard!! All I can say is, never settle for the cheaper stuff. Just save your money and get the good to begin with.

Just my thoughts
Huey



I have to respectfully disagree with your comments about the DDM4000, I mixed videos with the DDM4000 all the time...it all depends on the way you set it up, the mixer is so flexible that you can program any of the 20 knobs to crossfade your videos. You can even use a channel fader to crossfade your videos, its a MIDI mixer it will do whatever you program it to do if you know what your doing.
BUT, I was actually using the crossfader to mix my videos, I simply programmed 2 channels in MIDI to VDJ and I also programmed the crossfader section in MIDI to VDJ. All the audio was being mixed internally by VDJ and the audio was being routed out to PA System by my Native Instruments audio 2 sound interface, I programmed a knob on the mixers sampler section to VDJs headphone crossfader so I could preview my tracks or videos. Heck I didn't even have to use decks with this setup since I would program the EQ kill buttons on the crossfader section to play & cues on VDJ

Sometimes I would let my friends who are on serato guest DJ my gigs using the DDM4000 so I couldn't MIDI enable the DDM4000's crossfader section, whenever this would happen I would route my Native Instrument Audio 2 sound interface into 2 channels on the DDM4000 and I would use the mixer as a regular analog mixer for audio and for the video I would simply map a knob to the video crossfader on VDJ and my problem was solved.

I understand that Behringer have put out crappy products in the past but they have stepped up the R&D and I believe that Behringer got the DDM4000 right.

@ original poster
I think if your in the market for a MIDI mixer you should do your research, I find youtube very useful when I'm trying to research an item. Also go down to your local DJ store and see if the have a floor demo you can play with OR EVEN BETTER rent the mixer so you can try it out if rentals are available. The best tip I can give you is to make sure you buy the item from a reputable DJ store that has a good return policy just in case you change your mind about it after you play with it.

It's hard to recommend you a mixer since we all have different styles of mixing and not to mention we all have different budgets. You also don't provide us with much information on how you plan on using this mixer or your budget, but if you have a small budget I would definitely recommend the DDM4000.
I have owned 3 DDM4000 (Sold them because I needed cash at the time but I loved it so much that I would buy the unit back) and I never had any quality issues with any of them.
I've owned a Korg Zero 4 (I had Firewire Issues, I returned it to the store after I found many complaints online about the firewire)
Mackie D2 Pro (I had sound issues with the 1st one, 2nd unit I got was good)
Denon DN-X1700 (LOVED IT and I highly recommend it if you have the cash but I think the new DN-X600 is a good deal since its a mini DN-X1700)
American Audio VMS4 (I don't recommend it right now, maybe in the future as the product matures)
Allen & Heath 3D (I highly recommend it if you have the cash for it)

If I had to pick one as my favorite MIDI mixer it would be a close fight between the Denon DN-X1700 and the Allen & Heath 3D but I would go with the Denon DN-X1700 because I loved the 2 effects units......but since I found myself needing a ton of MIDI buttons I moved to the Allen & Heath 3D.

as far as MIDI controllers with built in sound interface that I would recommend
1) M-Audio Xponent -- I love the layout, it has a ton of buttons so you can control mostly everything in VDJ without having to use a shift key like you do on other MIDI controllers and all of the units buttons light up (very helpful in dark environments).
2) Hercules RMX -- I love the solid metal case, I like the built in 4 in 4 out sound interface that will allow you to use time codes with it.
 
MAGAGAR80 wrote :
If you have a little bit more cash I would recommend the Mackie D2 Pro...


Apparently Mackie is bankcrupt or something, and they don't manufacture D.Pro series mixers anymore, so it's next to impossible to get these from anywhere. This was told to me by a retail shop early this year when I was planning to buy D.4 Pro. The situation might be better in USA tough, since more shops have them in stock.

Anyway, I ended up buying Denon DN-X1600 which on hindsight was a better choice anyway.
 
I respect your opinion but im stickin to my guns. Its like I said, your already gonna spend what 500bucks. What's 200/300 more?? Don't mess around with the cheap stuff when it comes to peices of equipment that can make or brake your show.........why take the chance when you don't have to?? And yes I know anything can and will brake down at any given time but you can raise or lower your chances by just buying quality stuff to begin with.

Again just my opinion, but I have been that guy who tried to save a buck and it bombed on me.....
Huey
 
AuralCandy.Net wrote :
MAGAGAR80 wrote :
If you have a little bit more cash I would recommend the Mackie D2 Pro...


Apparently Mackie is bankcrupt or something, and they don't manufacture D.Pro series mixers anymore, so it's next to impossible to get these from anywhere. This was told to me by a retail shop early this year when I was planning to buy D.4 Pro. The situation might be better in USA tough, since more shops have them in stock.

Anyway, I ended up buying Denon DN-X1600 which on hindsight was a better choice anyway.


I believe they were discontinued by Mackie, you can still find them new here in the US but in my humble opinion the DN-X1600 is a lot better than the D2 because you get more channels, you get the affects unit and a ton more MIDI control on the DN-X1600.
 


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