Blulite
what happens if my speakers are too close to my TT's ? now i know it causes distortion but what sort?
dont know if you guys remember but i had quite a lot of problems with sound a while back and even though i dont have my TT's set up at the moment im wondering if thats what cauzed my problems all along. i read somewhere about speakers interfearing with TT's but there was no clarity on spacing i used to have my TT,s on a desk and had some surroung speakers behind them which are part and parcel of my technics shdv290 stack system. could these have been the problem?
i really dont want to set everything back up at the moment as it means trying to win a fight with the loft space. and untill im feeling a little braver i dont want to tackle it .just curious. thanks.
dont know if you guys remember but i had quite a lot of problems with sound a while back and even though i dont have my TT's set up at the moment im wondering if thats what cauzed my problems all along. i read somewhere about speakers interfearing with TT's but there was no clarity on spacing i used to have my TT,s on a desk and had some surroung speakers behind them which are part and parcel of my technics shdv290 stack system. could these have been the problem?
i really dont want to set everything back up at the moment as it means trying to win a fight with the loft space. and untill im feeling a little braver i dont want to tackle it .just curious. thanks.
Inviato Tue 04 Jan 11 @ 6:00 am
Dazmax
Hi Blu. Nice to see your still around.
The problem you get with having TT's too close to speakers is low frequency feedback. The sound/vibration from the speakers vibrates the deck/disc and the needle picks this up. It gets amplified, fed out of the speakers, the deck picks it up and so on until the sound is badly distorted and the music can become unplayable. The only solution is to isolate the TT's from the speakers as mutch as possible. Big donts are the speakers sitting on the same table as your decks or pointing directly at the decks platters. Avoid using loads of bass boost.
BTW I got stuck out in Saudi this year.
Daz
The problem you get with having TT's too close to speakers is low frequency feedback. The sound/vibration from the speakers vibrates the deck/disc and the needle picks this up. It gets amplified, fed out of the speakers, the deck picks it up and so on until the sound is badly distorted and the music can become unplayable. The only solution is to isolate the TT's from the speakers as mutch as possible. Big donts are the speakers sitting on the same table as your decks or pointing directly at the decks platters. Avoid using loads of bass boost.
BTW I got stuck out in Saudi this year.
Daz
Inviato Tue 04 Jan 11 @ 12:51 pm
Blulite
you know daz, after all the trouble i went through to try and sort my sound problem i bet thats what was going on.
my TT's were sat on a desk, i had a surround speaker at each end on the back corner pointing towards me, and a centre speaker sat behind my mixer. the sound was ok for the first 2-3 mins then it just sounded awefull like a warbled reverb.
im going to dig out my decks tomorrow and check it out. ive built a new workstation to put my decks on and my speakers are now wall mounted 3 feet above the workstation.
the surround speakers arent wall mounted yet but they are still about 3 feet away. they will eventually be wall mounted too but for now ill just point them the other way.
if thats all that was wrong im going to kick myself. i spent days trying to solve it along with all the new kit i bought lol. bloody mixer, cables, styus, you gave me those carts. i even sent my maya 44 off to esi to be tested and it came back clear. mani tried everything.lol
the only other option could have been too little ram in my pc. hmm theres a thing my pc is broken. ill have to borow one so i can check everything out. or fix mine its not major it wont boot into windows for some reason. probs just needs re-installing.
bummer on being stuck in saudi over christmas and new year. mind you at least you never got snowed in.
my TT's were sat on a desk, i had a surround speaker at each end on the back corner pointing towards me, and a centre speaker sat behind my mixer. the sound was ok for the first 2-3 mins then it just sounded awefull like a warbled reverb.
im going to dig out my decks tomorrow and check it out. ive built a new workstation to put my decks on and my speakers are now wall mounted 3 feet above the workstation.
the surround speakers arent wall mounted yet but they are still about 3 feet away. they will eventually be wall mounted too but for now ill just point them the other way.
if thats all that was wrong im going to kick myself. i spent days trying to solve it along with all the new kit i bought lol. bloody mixer, cables, styus, you gave me those carts. i even sent my maya 44 off to esi to be tested and it came back clear. mani tried everything.lol
the only other option could have been too little ram in my pc. hmm theres a thing my pc is broken. ill have to borow one so i can check everything out. or fix mine its not major it wont boot into windows for some reason. probs just needs re-installing.
bummer on being stuck in saudi over christmas and new year. mind you at least you never got snowed in.
Inviato Tue 04 Jan 11 @ 2:04 pm
Blulite
and yeah man im still around, im planning to be around a lot more this year. i damaged my back at work and have to change career so im going to get stuck in and give dj'ing a shot outside the bedroom.
i have a head full of knowlege but didnt have enough time to put hand to platter and practice everything ive learned over the years ive been a hobby dj.
ive got nothing to lose so i may as well give it a good go. ive got a new job that pays good money too but its only part time so im going to plough as much as i can into improving my setup. first things deffo got to be a usb soundcard or controller with built in sound. my soundlab TT's will suffice for now and my mixer aint too bad. just need to get the sound sorted first.
also ive booked myself onto some courses
1, live sound engineering
2, pathway to music technology (cubase, in a steinberg approved studio)
3, introduction to sound recording
4, (even though i dont think ill need it but what the hey) Introduction to DJ Skills.
im sure theres something i can take away from it
i have a head full of knowlege but didnt have enough time to put hand to platter and practice everything ive learned over the years ive been a hobby dj.
ive got nothing to lose so i may as well give it a good go. ive got a new job that pays good money too but its only part time so im going to plough as much as i can into improving my setup. first things deffo got to be a usb soundcard or controller with built in sound. my soundlab TT's will suffice for now and my mixer aint too bad. just need to get the sound sorted first.
also ive booked myself onto some courses
1, live sound engineering
2, pathway to music technology (cubase, in a steinberg approved studio)
3, introduction to sound recording
4, (even though i dont think ill need it but what the hey) Introduction to DJ Skills.
im sure theres something i can take away from it
Inviato Tue 04 Jan 11 @ 2:14 pm
Dazmax
Hi mate
Nothing wrong with getting some course work under your belt. The live sound stuff can become very technical so it would be worth having a realy good look at the course content before diving in. It is also frightningly expensive to get into the live sound field on your own (I don't have any change from about 50 grand spent on my rig.Ouch!!!!). You have to love it to do it. If you were looking at going in that direction I would have a look and see what companys are already working in your area and contact them to see if they are looking for any trainees.
Don't be put off but take the time to find out what you would be getting into.
The recording stuff is always fun and can teach you allot about the hardware/software and integration of computers and sound equipment. Well worth it as mutch of this is transferable to the dj side of things.
The basic DJing course can help allot. Even seasoned DJ's find that they learn from these courses. Its great to be shown how to do some of this stuff properly instead of faffing around in the dark trying to get something to work. A case of not re-inventing the wheel LOL.
Best of luck with it all mate. If I can help out with anything let me know. After your courses I may well be asking YOU for help!
Cheers
Daz
Nothing wrong with getting some course work under your belt. The live sound stuff can become very technical so it would be worth having a realy good look at the course content before diving in. It is also frightningly expensive to get into the live sound field on your own (I don't have any change from about 50 grand spent on my rig.Ouch!!!!). You have to love it to do it. If you were looking at going in that direction I would have a look and see what companys are already working in your area and contact them to see if they are looking for any trainees.
Don't be put off but take the time to find out what you would be getting into.
The recording stuff is always fun and can teach you allot about the hardware/software and integration of computers and sound equipment. Well worth it as mutch of this is transferable to the dj side of things.
The basic DJing course can help allot. Even seasoned DJ's find that they learn from these courses. Its great to be shown how to do some of this stuff properly instead of faffing around in the dark trying to get something to work. A case of not re-inventing the wheel LOL.
Best of luck with it all mate. If I can help out with anything let me know. After your courses I may well be asking YOU for help!
Cheers
Daz
Inviato Tue 04 Jan 11 @ 9:52 pm
Blulite
heres a link to the course descriptions mate, not sure how deep the coursed delve but theyre doing them for free at the moment. well except the dj one. so i get 4 for the price of one.
http://www.studiohartlepool.com/training_courses.php
http://www.studiohartlepool.com/training_courses.php
Inviato Wed 05 Jan 11 @ 2:36 am