I always thought it was the 120 - 140 area but theres been some controversy where i am, whats you guys' opinion?
Inviato Sat 02 Jun 12 @ 4:12 pm
i think if i played an entire night at those bpm's my customers would have heart attacks. areas and demographics differ so much that i couldnt give a correct answer to that question but irregardless of the heart attacks, wouldnt some actual variety be a welcome change, say every once in a while mixing down to something in the 95-110bpm ranges?
or is it a club thing over there that everything has to stay the same tempo?
or is it a club thing over there that everything has to stay the same tempo?
Inviato Sat 02 Jun 12 @ 5:29 pm
If you got to ask a question like that you shouldn't really be working where you are. Each venue has it's own little mind set and if you haven't gettin' into that, then you need to step back and decide is it the place for you.
Inviato Sat 02 Jun 12 @ 8:09 pm
gotta change things up and rotate the floor ...... gotta agree with wild .... change things up ... more people at the bar more drinks sold = happy owners .. and a happy crowd some may dig the 120-140 range and then theres others who groove the low end stuff .... always worked for me
Its a skill called reading your crowd easy in theory a pain in practice...
Its a skill called reading your crowd easy in theory a pain in practice...
Inviato Sat 02 Jun 12 @ 8:31 pm
Yes I agree with other guys. Listening to same bpm all night long seems pretty boring. I dont know how to post links but maybe you should read more of 'mix lessons' forum.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 2:26 am
the only time i can think of really where you would stay within a set range, is if you were playing a dedicated night, for example if the night was advertised and dedicated to house, or techno for example, then you know that almost the entire crowd are there for that specific genre.
in a venue where it is not genre/event specific, then you gotta cater for everyone. top 40's always work well as they have a wide and varied range of genre and bpm. the key is to make the transtion from one genre/bpm range to the next using tracks that you know will compliment the outgoing and imcoming and a give a flow to the entire set .
in a venue where it is not genre/event specific, then you gotta cater for everyone. top 40's always work well as they have a wide and varied range of genre and bpm. the key is to make the transtion from one genre/bpm range to the next using tracks that you know will compliment the outgoing and imcoming and a give a flow to the entire set .
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 5:33 am
@wildcountryclub & @danielsr2006 - I wouldn't call 120bpm the same tempo as 140bpm but okay
@Tayla - I don't work anywhere as a DJ yet, I'm still learning (hence why I am asking the question), but sorry for being interested in the general club culture
But cheers in general everyone for the good advice :)
@Tayla - I don't work anywhere as a DJ yet, I'm still learning (hence why I am asking the question), but sorry for being interested in the general club culture
But cheers in general everyone for the good advice :)
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 7:56 am
"same tempo" in this case meaning playing upper and high energy tunes all throughout the evening, not that i ever meant they were the same bpm's.
forgive me Hom - i sometimes speak american, instead of english, and there are the inevitable translation errors.
forgive me Hom - i sometimes speak american, instead of english, and there are the inevitable translation errors.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 8:19 am
@wildcountryclub - even still I wouldn't say that the feel of 120bpm was the same feel as 140bpm, but fair enough, point taken
also what other electro genres are there at 110bpm apart from glitch hop, or do DJs play glitch hop?
also what other electro genres are there at 110bpm apart from glitch hop, or do DJs play glitch hop?
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 10:30 am
The mere fact you've asked the question shows how little you know abou DJing....
Don't get defensive when we reply. They say the truth hurts. They also say "if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen"!
There is no tempo that's "best". You play what you need to play for the gig you're doing.
You should be thinking more about genres than tempo anyway, as most peoples musical taste is not tempo related - they like different genres. Nobody goes around saying "Oh I only like music that's 123.7 bpm and I don't like 124 bpm music".
LOL
Don't get defensive when we reply. They say the truth hurts. They also say "if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen"!
There is no tempo that's "best". You play what you need to play for the gig you're doing.
You should be thinking more about genres than tempo anyway, as most peoples musical taste is not tempo related - they like different genres. Nobody goes around saying "Oh I only like music that's 123.7 bpm and I don't like 124 bpm music".
LOL
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 11:16 am
@ Hom Tardy. Not all night clubs are the Same. You have dance/electronic/dubstep/techno/house clubs, Hip Hop & R&B clubs, Latin Clubs, 80's & 90's Clubs. You also have tons of clubs that play many genres including latin. Some Djs specialize in ceratin types of music while others have many types of genres and play almost everything. If you like music with high bpms, Then check out a club that plays that type of music.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 12:12 pm
i actually had to wiki "glitch hop" and then listened to a sample...
i now have something i hate worse than dub-step.
thanks.
i now have something i hate worse than dub-step.
thanks.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 12:46 pm
@groovindj - It is reasonable to assume that once someone replies in the offensive ie. "maybe you shouldn't be working as a DJ" (paraphrase) it is only reasonable to assume the response will be defensive, ie "actually I don't work as a DJ" nobody likes to be talked down to. Although I would've thought it'd be more annoying for people like you if I actually replied offensively.
Having said that, I wouldn't call "maybe you shouldn't be working as a DJ" 'the heat' and I wouldn't call a forum, where people come with questions seeking advice, 'the kitchen'in that metaphor. It's not like I'm trying to assert my dominance as head DJ for this website.
And also, of course I know little about DJing, that is surely what this forum is for?
Also genres and tempos are synonymous, so for example, if I was talking about 140 bpm tracks, its very likely going to concern dubstep.
@wildcountryclub - I know, it's not great, that's why I was asking about an alternative at the same tempo.
Having said that, I wouldn't call "maybe you shouldn't be working as a DJ" 'the heat' and I wouldn't call a forum, where people come with questions seeking advice, 'the kitchen'in that metaphor. It's not like I'm trying to assert my dominance as head DJ for this website.
And also, of course I know little about DJing, that is surely what this forum is for?
Also genres and tempos are synonymous, so for example, if I was talking about 140 bpm tracks, its very likely going to concern dubstep.
@wildcountryclub - I know, it's not great, that's why I was asking about an alternative at the same tempo.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 2:52 pm
Hom Tardy wrote :
Also genres and tempos are synonymous, so for example, if I was talking about 140 bpm tracks, its very likely going to concern dubstep.
and nuskool breaks, grime, techno, hard trance, trance, hardstyle etc.. all sound distinctively different but do share some elements.
If your going for the club scene figure out what you like and find/start a night that plays it... if you want over 28's or commercial meat markets then you have to rotate the dance floor etc...
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 3:07 pm
Hom Tardy wrote :
Also genres and tempos are synonymous, so for example, if I was talking about 140 bpm tracks, its very likely going to concern dubstep.
Also genres and tempos are synonymous, so for example, if I was talking about 140 bpm tracks, its very likely going to concern dubstep.
so if i play a country tune at 140bpm then it's dubstep?
if i play old skool miami sound booty shaking it's also dubstep?
swing dancing at 140bpm is dubstep?
genres and tempos are most decidely NOT synonymous.
genre is a type of music - country is a genre, rock is a genre, hip-hop, rap, hard-style all genres.
tempo is the speed of which the music is keeping time
matter of fact the majority of dubstep i've heard lately is below 90-75 bpm.
i'm gonna go soak my head in an ice bath now, and hope this thread dies a nice peaceful death.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 4:05 pm
@wildcountryclub - okay, i understand what tempos are, and i understand what genres are, i dont think its worth getting all frustrated at each other for no reason, i just came here looking for some advice, lets leave it at that
Cheers everyone.
Cheers everyone.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 4:28 pm
Hey Hom...
Welcome to the forum.
Believe it or not, we are here to help and normally that help is a little more positive than the help you seem to have received. Positive or not, what was stated in this thread is good advice and good answers to your question.
I don't have anything to add as the answers in this thread pretty much cover your question but I wanted to welcome you to the forum.
Welcome to the forum.
Believe it or not, we are here to help and normally that help is a little more positive than the help you seem to have received. Positive or not, what was stated in this thread is good advice and good answers to your question.
I don't have anything to add as the answers in this thread pretty much cover your question but I wanted to welcome you to the forum.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 8:15 pm
Hom Tardy wrote :
@wildcountryclub & @danielsr2006 - I wouldn't call 120bpm the same tempo as 140bpm but okay
@Tayla - I don't work anywhere as a DJ yet, I'm still learning (hence why I am asking the question), but sorry for being interested in the general club culture
But cheers in general everyone for the good advice :)
@Tayla - I don't work anywhere as a DJ yet, I'm still learning (hence why I am asking the question), but sorry for being interested in the general club culture
But cheers in general everyone for the good advice :)
if that's the case, then it's just a matter of attending some of the places you wish/plan to be a DJ at. some will play everything from house to dnb to dubstep to 80s music, while others delve solely into techno/minimal/tech-house and so forth. if you're targeting a specific venue, spend a couple nights getting a feel of what you can expect, and elaborate on your playlists from there. don't forget to regularly check the radios to see what tunes are playing the most (Guetta, Avicii, all that stupid shit). if the crowd has something in common (most people listen to the radio, and therefore will know those songs and their lyrics - if they have lyrics), they'll gather 'round and sing, get happy, cheer you on, etc.
Hom Tardy wrote :
Also genres and tempos are synonymous, so for example, if I was talking about 140 bpm tracks, its very likely going to concern dubstep.
wrong. if you go and listen to some bangin' techno, a lot of it is located in the 140bpm part of town.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 9:55 pm
groovindj wrote :
The mere fact you've asked the question shows how little you know abou DJing....
Don't get defensive when we reply. They say the truth hurts. They also say "if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen"!
There is no tempo that's "best". You play what you need to play for the gig you're doing.
You should be thinking more about genres than tempo anyway, as most peoples musical taste is not tempo related - they like different genres. Nobody goes around saying "Oh I only like music that's 123.7 bpm and I don't like 124 bpm music".
LOL
Don't get defensive when we reply. They say the truth hurts. They also say "if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen"!
There is no tempo that's "best". You play what you need to play for the gig you're doing.
You should be thinking more about genres than tempo anyway, as most peoples musical taste is not tempo related - they like different genres. Nobody goes around saying "Oh I only like music that's 123.7 bpm and I don't like 124 bpm music".
LOL
haha, I chuckled at that. yeah, 128bpm is too mainstream, I prefer 125.2 and nothing else.
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 9:56 pm
(edit - multiple posts)
Inviato Sun 03 Jun 12 @ 9:57 pm