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Topic: How To Mix With CDJs?

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Hay guys, nice to speak to you all again, I have a question. This question might seem pretty dumb but it's something I've been thinking about for ages, and is partly the reason I don't use the system I'm going to speak to you about. You know CDJs right? How are you supposed to know when a track is coming to an end as well as knowing by the timer? The reason I ask this is because I thought about the song waveforms and a fair few songs have a silent gap when a track has ended so it adds extra time onto the end. In that case, I thought you might be a little ******! if you don't know when the silence has added more time at the end of the song. I know it might sound kinda dumb but I had to ask because I think I should learn CDJs even though I've heard they're easier than timecodes, because for future equipment I don't think MIDI & VDJ alone is going to be enough if it breaks down all of a sudden.

I do sometimes plug in a pre-mixed MP3 through a spare channel at times. Just to add.

Thanks once again,

Rich/ DJ Dickie H
 
Inviato Mon 09 Jul 12 @ 5:42 pm
Tracks have extra time on the end????

Where are you getting your tracks from?

If you're playing shop bought CDs (which is likely if you're using CD players) then 99% of tracks will have been mastered without any extra time at the end - because it would eat into the total playing time of the CD and restrict the amount of tracks it could hold.

To answer the question of "how do you know when it will end?", a track will usually finish in one of two ways.

It'll either fade out gradually (so you can hear that it's ending) or it'll just stop suddenly (which is when your skills as a DJ come into play, as you hit play on the next track with lightning fast reflexes).

First and foremost you should know the tracks you're playing anyway. But if you do get caught off guard by a sudden finish, you learn to react quickly. Same as if something else goes wrong - you press the wrong button, fade the wrong track - whatever. You learn to react quickly and deal with it.
 
Always study your tracks..........know your music inside and out!! Doesn't anybody pre-listen to their music anymore??
 
I'm all for all the extra tools that digital software gives us in our workflow, but that shouldn't mean people aren't learning the basics. If you know music, you'll hear an end coming, regardless of what the display says. Of course there are exceptions, but as a general rule you can hear songs building up and winding down, then it's just a matter of counting it out.

All that said, yes, you should learn your music. You should be able to recognise where in the track you are without a time display or a waveform to help you.
 
I had a situation at a gig a short while ago, with a track that I'd listened to on YouTube (just enough to realise I liked it) then downloaded and put on my system.

It was only a matter of days later that I got asked for it at the gig, which kinda surprised me as I'd only just discovered it.

I played it and it went down well. I had the next track ready, and was keeping one eye on the timer when the music just stopped dead about 16s from the end.

At this point I didn't know if there was a deliberate pause in the track or what - but it turned out that it ended with a very quiet sound effect after the music stopped.

When it stopped, the girl who'd asked for it looked across and said "that's it" - at which point I hit play on the next track.

It probably took less than a second between the music stopping, me looking up, her saying "that's it" and me hitting play.
 
Since we're talking about CDJs, do they have smart loop incorporated?

Also, OP, CDJs also have the track's waveform on their display screens, to give you a sense of direction. Of course, they're simpler than the waveforms you'll see if you're using software.

Obviously, though, you have to know your music before playing a gig or recording a set. It's just common sense.
 
If playing back any MP3 DATA DISCS make sure to pick up this program that will batch trim your file's audio beginings and endings of silence.

http://www.mptrim.com/
 
beatbreaker1 wrote :
Always study your tracks..........know your music inside and out!! Doesn't anybody pre-listen to their music anymore??


No they too busy pre-mixing and pre-cuing!
 
Lmfao! So true Coach!!!
 
Learn your music and you will not have that problem. If you know the song then you know when it is about to end. I am so glad that I started spinning on vinyl. Most of the time when I spend I don't even use the software effects. I create my own by putting the same song on both channels. I am old school so flanger (Jetting for your old school DJ's) is something that I can do in my sleep. I create my own doubles and triples.
 
ahmmm good day guiz!!!!

how to remix a music???
sorry cuz i dont know how.,.,.,

please help me
 
Buy VDJ Pro. Convert all your CDs to files. And use the visual waveforms to see everything "at a glance".

You'll see all the events coming. The type of intro, the dropouts, the breaks, the punch, and the type of ending.

It's way better than looking sideways at vinyl to catch the shaded area of the break. And superior to watching a countdown timer on a CD player.
 


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