I am very confused right now. I have read & heard that DJ's need to pay royalties to song writers, record labels, etc for the music that they play during their DJ gig. I know that clubs need to pay them, but I am still confused about mobile DJ's. When I DJ it is just me, I do not really have any "staff".
I guess my question is, do Mobile DJ's need to pay royalty fees when playing for private parties (ie, birthdays, anniversaries, holiday parties, compnay parties & events which are private) weddings? I want to do everything the proper way & the legal way.
Thank You
DJ Maglia
Kelly Acrin
I guess my question is, do Mobile DJ's need to pay royalty fees when playing for private parties (ie, birthdays, anniversaries, holiday parties, compnay parties & events which are private) weddings? I want to do everything the proper way & the legal way.
Thank You
DJ Maglia
Kelly Acrin
Inviato Mon 17 Jun 13 @ 2:52 pm
Well, as far as I understand....Everybody is required to pay royalties, even in radio. The radio dj's don't necessarily pay but the radio stations has to pay for broadcasting artist's work publicly.
Here in Jamaica...everybody clubs, radio, etc.....dj's have to register to pay royalties.
I don't agree with that, because if the artist gives you his/her track for promotional use, why do we need to pay for that. Songs don't play themselves.
Same for record pool, you get the tracks for promotional use....then we're being demanded to pay royalties.
That's why payola exists.
Here in Jamaica...everybody clubs, radio, etc.....dj's have to register to pay royalties.
I don't agree with that, because if the artist gives you his/her track for promotional use, why do we need to pay for that. Songs don't play themselves.
Same for record pool, you get the tracks for promotional use....then we're being demanded to pay royalties.
That's why payola exists.
Inviato Mon 17 Jun 13 @ 3:05 pm
Wanting to do business the right way is honorable but don't sweat royalties. DJ'ing is a cash business, make the money and on to the next job. If Jay Z & Flo Rida feel as though I owe them money for playing their crap, they can come try and collect.... bring it!
Inviato Mon 17 Jun 13 @ 3:07 pm
That's a lawsuit they would surely win....just like how they had won napster
Inviato Mon 17 Jun 13 @ 3:11 pm
DJECoast wrote :
Wanting to do business the right way is honorable but don't sweat royalties. DJ'ing is a cash business, make the money and on to the next job. If Jay Z & Flo Rida feel as though I owe them money for playing their crap, they can come try and collect.... bring it!
that goes for treysongz too ..... thank god for talk radio on the way homr from my residencies
Inviato Mon 17 Jun 13 @ 3:18 pm
[quote=kellyacrin
I guess my question is, do Mobile DJ's need to pay royalty fees when playing for private parties (ie, birthdays, anniversaries, holiday parties, compnay parties & events which are private) weddings? I want to do everything the proper way & the legal way.
Thank You
DJ Maglia
Kelly Acrin[/quote]
Simple answer...
NO!
You paid for the music.
You are not selling the music.
I guess my question is, do Mobile DJ's need to pay royalty fees when playing for private parties (ie, birthdays, anniversaries, holiday parties, compnay parties & events which are private) weddings? I want to do everything the proper way & the legal way.
Thank You
DJ Maglia
Kelly Acrin[/quote]
Simple answer...
NO!
You paid for the music.
You are not selling the music.
Inviato Mon 17 Jun 13 @ 4:08 pm
ASCAP/BMI fees, otherwise known as royalties, are paid for by the hosting facility here in the United States.
Inviato Mon 17 Jun 13 @ 8:59 pm
I never heard of anyone paying fees like that.
Inviato Tue 18 Jun 13 @ 12:13 am
Here in the UK it's the venues that have to buy a licence to cover them for public performance (they play music in a building which has public access). When you DJ in those venues, the music you play is covered by their licence.
Even if it's a private event like a wedding or birthday party, the venue in which it's being held will usually have a licence (if it's a place where music is played). If the event is being held in a private location (e.g. a home) then it doesn't need to be licensed because it's not a public performance.
In locations such as outdoor events (festival, fair, fete etc.) then the organisers should obtain the licence if they're having music playing.
That's my understanding of it anyway. E&OE.
Even if it's a private event like a wedding or birthday party, the venue in which it's being held will usually have a licence (if it's a place where music is played). If the event is being held in a private location (e.g. a home) then it doesn't need to be licensed because it's not a public performance.
In locations such as outdoor events (festival, fair, fete etc.) then the organisers should obtain the licence if they're having music playing.
That's my understanding of it anyway. E&OE.
Inviato Tue 18 Jun 13 @ 6:30 am
In Canada and most places a mobile DJ doesn't pay royalties when DJing a party that they don't put on themselves. Once they charge for an event at the door or sell tickets they they fall under a different catagory. If you subscribe to a DJ record pool to buy your music(which is actually leasing only) then the royalties are being paid(only on the ones you subscribed to). It will be marked somewhere either on the media or in the contract or the website. If you buy music from a private retailer where most ordinary people purchase, music royalties for public use are not paid. Then you are responsible to become a member of many associations to pay up royalties as you are getting paid so your making a living off of someone elses music. These retail stores sell music for personal use only. Downloading through bittorents, etc are illegal and obviously not paid, even the ones you find through for example promo only in a search were only paid by the original owner for his/her use not yours. This subject goes on and on and on. Everyone wants a piece of the pie!!
Inviato Tue 18 Jun 13 @ 6:54 am
In the US, ASCAP and BMI pretty much governs the licensing for music. According to ASCAP you need a license for "public performances"
Check out their FAQ here:
http://www.ascap.com/licensing/licensingfaq.aspx#general
For bar/clubs, it is the bar or clubs responsibility to get the license. Most radio broadcast, the station is the one getting the license.
Quote :
A public performance is one that occurs either in a public place where people gather (other than a small circle of a family or social acquaintances). A public performance is also one that is transmitted to the public, for example, radio or TV broadcasts, and via the Internet.
A public performance is one that occurs either in a public place where people gather (other than a small circle of a family or social acquaintances). A public performance is also one that is transmitted to the public, for example, radio or TV broadcasts, and via the Internet.
Check out their FAQ here:
http://www.ascap.com/licensing/licensingfaq.aspx#general
For bar/clubs, it is the bar or clubs responsibility to get the license. Most radio broadcast, the station is the one getting the license.
Inviato Tue 18 Jun 13 @ 2:05 pm
German DJ's are now majorly ****ed with a new recent rule from the copyright mafia GEMA:
"The German collection society GEMA announced a license fee on April 1 for DJs who play and store songs digitally. The license fee is .13 euros (.17 cents) per title or €125 ($163) for a collection of 1,000 tracks. An additional 500 tracks can be purchased for €50 ($65). Since most DJs store some 15,000 music-files on their hard drives, a typical DJ in Germany would have to pay GEMA some 1,500 Euros (about $2,000) per year."
And this is not an april fools joke..
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/1556724/german-djs-protest-gemas-proposed-tax-on-digital-music
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1757
This is a killer for any underground music scene. DJs need to pay huge fees and the underground artist they play will never see a cent. Its just a way of sustaining a small group of commercial producers that happen to be fist deep in GEMA and killing self publishing artists.
Truly .. INSANE!
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"The German collection society GEMA announced a license fee on April 1 for DJs who play and store songs digitally. The license fee is .13 euros (.17 cents) per title or €125 ($163) for a collection of 1,000 tracks. An additional 500 tracks can be purchased for €50 ($65). Since most DJs store some 15,000 music-files on their hard drives, a typical DJ in Germany would have to pay GEMA some 1,500 Euros (about $2,000) per year."
And this is not an april fools joke..
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/digital-and-mobile/1556724/german-djs-protest-gemas-proposed-tax-on-digital-music
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1757
This is a killer for any underground music scene. DJs need to pay huge fees and the underground artist they play will never see a cent. Its just a way of sustaining a small group of commercial producers that happen to be fist deep in GEMA and killing self publishing artists.
Truly .. INSANE!
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Inviato Tue 18 Jun 13 @ 3:34 pm
Info for Canada:
http://www.cpdja.ca/members/index.php?option=avla
"Anyone who duplicates sound recordings or music videos and/or exhibits music videos requires a license from AVLA or authorization from the owner or controller of the copyright. The unlicensed duplication of sound recordings or music videos and/or the unlicensed exhibition of music videos is an infringement of copyright and may be subject to civil and/or criminal prosecution."
I am fighting the decision of getting a one time licence as well. I want to do things right for my cousins wedding but I certainly don't have a line up of people that want me as a DJ. I don't have the money to pay for a law suit and from what I hear some venues ask to see your license.
http://www.cpdja.ca/members/index.php?option=avla
"Anyone who duplicates sound recordings or music videos and/or exhibits music videos requires a license from AVLA or authorization from the owner or controller of the copyright. The unlicensed duplication of sound recordings or music videos and/or the unlicensed exhibition of music videos is an infringement of copyright and may be subject to civil and/or criminal prosecution."
I am fighting the decision of getting a one time licence as well. I want to do things right for my cousins wedding but I certainly don't have a line up of people that want me as a DJ. I don't have the money to pay for a law suit and from what I hear some venues ask to see your license.
Inviato Tue 18 Jun 13 @ 5:38 pm
From my online research:
"In USA it is actually the responsibility of the venue (bar, nightclub, etc.) to maintain ASCAP membership and pay royalties.
From ASCAP website:
“ASCAP does not license DJs. It is the venue, establishment, or promoter of an event that is responsible for public performance licensing, not the performer. Private events such as weddings, etc. are exempt from licensing.”
- Bryn Caryl, ASCAP
“BMI licenses the “public performance” of music… events such as private parties and weddings are not required to have a license.”
- Jaqui Garlan, BMI
“Royalty fees are not collected for private performances.”
- David Derryberry, SESAC
"In USA it is actually the responsibility of the venue (bar, nightclub, etc.) to maintain ASCAP membership and pay royalties.
From ASCAP website:
“ASCAP does not license DJs. It is the venue, establishment, or promoter of an event that is responsible for public performance licensing, not the performer. Private events such as weddings, etc. are exempt from licensing.”
- Bryn Caryl, ASCAP
“BMI licenses the “public performance” of music… events such as private parties and weddings are not required to have a license.”
- Jaqui Garlan, BMI
“Royalty fees are not collected for private performances.”
- David Derryberry, SESAC
Inviato Tue 19 Nov 13 @ 11:17 am