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Topic: Best equipment to use for Karaoke?

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Looking for opinions on what is the best equipment to use for karaoke

Mics, Monitor etc.

Thanks in advance
 

Inviato Tue 15 Mar 16 @ 3:52 pm
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Dunno what's best exactly, that depends on a lot of things, but I can tell you what I use:

Audio:
Chord RU2 twin UHF radio mic set (around £100 the set, good enough to sound well, cheap enough to give to drunken singers)
TC Helicon Voicelive Rack (reverb, autotune, harmony etc)
Behringer compressor/limiter (one channel per radio mic, stops idiots that scream down the mic from blowing out the sound system)
ADJ VMS4.1 (4 channel controller, 2 channels for VDJ, 2 channels for singer mics)
Shure SM58 (used by me and me only!)

Video:
PCTV box - converts VGA to composite video
4 channel distribution box - to send video to multiple TVs
Ancient portable colour TV - for the singers: it's less fragile than an LCD, and has a better viewing angle.

My audio is hooked into the in-house PA, and I also connect up to the inhouse video projector and screens around the edge of the room.

So that's my rig, it may or may not be best for you, but it's perfect for what I'm doing at least!
 

The SM58 is a tough microphone. Some karaoke singers are professional vocalists having a night out, and they want to sound good. Let all but the idiots use this microphone. You customers will notice the quality.
You can get better microphones but this one seems to satisfy the professional singers.

+1 SM58
 

bigron1 wrote :
The SM58 is a tough microphone. Some karaoke singers are professional vocalists having a night out, and they want to sound good. Let all but the idiots use this microphone. You customers will notice the quality.
You can get better microphones but this one seems to satisfy the professional singers.

+1 SM58


If I was sticking with wired mics, I'd probably end up investing in a pair of 58s for the singers. As it is, the venue lends itself to the use of radio mics, the singers often go walkabout into the crowd, end up dancing on top of pool tables etc! I've been quite impressed with how well my £100 twin radio mic set sounds though - good dynamic range, tight enough pickup pattern to keep feedback at bay etc. Have used them at live gigs with professional singers alongside a Sennheiser G2, and frankly, there was very little between them to listen to!
 

SM58 is a dynamic cardioid microphone and not recommended for karaoke!

You need a Dynamic super-cardioid vocal mic, which helps to reduce spill and feedback.
 

What? The SM58 is probably the most famous vocal mic in the world, used by everyone from pro singers in arena sized venues to amateurs in pubs.

Words used on the Shure web page - legendary, industry standard, consistently the first choice for vocal performances around the globe.

....and you're saying it's no use for karaoke? :-0
 

I wouldn't spend that amount of money on a karaoke mic (£80). They get dropped, thrown and dented.

Cheaper the better IMO.
 

Dropped, thrown and dented is nothing to an SM58. Part of the reason why they have the reputation.
 

I need to be careful what I say just in case any of my singers are watching..the good singers take full advantage of my SM58, I have few who prefer my Trantec (Sennheiser) radio mic. One guy who is quite good demands the radio mic, all the other top singers are happy with the SM58!
If it's good enough for the top singers, then let those who try hard use it as well. I have two SM58's but only take one out with me, my back up wired mic is a cheap reasonable effort, and I do switch should the singers not respect the equipment.

A note of caution, some voices do sound better on different types of mic, there is no universal solution, everything is about compromise, and what works best in the majority of cases.

This could naturally bring us to mic tone control, bass, mid, top, then echo and key changing, all critical topics?
 

What about using the karaoke service through VDJ and it will be ran off my laptop?

HDMI cord from the laptop to external monitor obviously and I currently use Nady wireless mics for my DJ stuff
 

@hwm1992
Take a look at the track list: http://www.virtualdj.com/download/karaoke.html
This isn't even close to what you would need to put on a Karaoke show.

There are other ways to get karaoke tracks. Just google some creative searches for them.
 

bigron1 wrote :


This could naturally bring us to mic tone control, bass, mid, top, then echo and key changing, all critical topics?


Ron,

You are the only one who is talking about the sound of the mic, i was talking about feedback pickup.
 

Hey 1992, If you have no karaoke library, the VDJ karaoke library will get ya by fine in the beginning, and it's very affordable. The SM58 is tough as nails, sound great, and they are affordable, tho wired. But, the most popular karaoke bar in this area only uses wired SM58s. A quick, easy, and affordable way to get into karaoke to see if you enjoy it. From the VDJ library, you can also shop these: http://www.all-star-karaoke.com/ http://www.sbikaraoke.com/ https://www.karaokecloud.com/ http://www.karaoke-version.com/ http://www.sunflykaraoke.com/ http://www.acekaraoke.com/, to consider building your own song library along the way. Just MHO.
 

Is there any other karaoke services out there similar to VDJ's?

I want to run it through my laptop I have no desire to get back into using CDG's like I used to
 

Well the sm58 is of course a legend, and you can get replacement head shells too, I don't think there is any need to treat them with kid gloves, they are designed to be tough as old boot.

Personally if I was doing karaoke professionally , j would have no problem handing over a sm58, at £80 even if it's abused to he'll, it's still going to have a reasonable lifespan, and you could easily go through 3 or 4 cheap £20 mics in the same period , so the cost becomes irrelevant, and you just know the sm58 performance is going to be superior.

Having said that, some of the cheaper mics are sounding very good these days, I guess that the cheaper tech is catching up,

On the subject of radio mics, well I have I twin set of kam mics, which I have found to be very good for the £120 they cost, the build quality is good and the sound quality, although no sm58, is very good too

I use a vocopro mic mixer, with separate gain, reverb, echo and eq per mic, works well, and you can pick them fairly cheaply .

The one thing would buy if I was to do more with karaoke , would be a compressor / limiter.

If your at a venue with sensible singers, it's probably not required, but working in the average pub , you just know your going to get some drunk shouting down the mic.

There is a lot of great equipment out there at very reasonable prices, if you already have your pa, then I am sure you could add a very good karaoke kit for less than a grand.

I don't think there is any reason nowadays to use vga, or vga to composite adapters, Hdmi will give your great crisp graphics, even the cheapest sets support it and these days a hdmi distribution unit is cheap

 

HDMI is all well and good until you turn up at a venue with a big screen installed, and smaller TVs all round the walls, and they present you with a composite connection to patch to it with! :) Personally, I've found HDMI to be a massive pain in the butt, what with some screens being fussy about resolutions and refresh rates. I set my secondary output to 1024x768, plug in the composite adapter, and rest easy knowing that it will happily work with anything that takes a composite input. True, it's not as high-res as HDMI, but how HD to you need it to be for karaoke graphics? Even if you don't plan to use it, for the sake of £12 on ebay, it's worth carrying a composite adapter in your kit bag for emergencies...
 



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