no1djkb
I will admitt that I am a novice when it comes to DJing with the computer age. I used records for a long time. The past five years I cut down considerably doing parties one because of style of music and second carrying those speakers lights and everything else got tiresome (was getting old:)). Anyway I am updating everything because of virtual DJ. I have seen serato scratch in action and it peeked my interest but virtual DJ in my opinion is the ultimate.
Asking around from people in my IT department to friends, they all say Mac notebooks are really good but you can get a really good dell notebook with xp on it that will serve the purpose. My question is why do most DJ's use mac? If I get a notebook that just has virtual dj on it with the bare minimum of other things i need will i still have to fear it crashing on me? I will only need it for DJing. I can just use my old pc at home for other stuff like surfing or other things that i need.
Asking around from people in my IT department to friends, they all say Mac notebooks are really good but you can get a really good dell notebook with xp on it that will serve the purpose. My question is why do most DJ's use mac? If I get a notebook that just has virtual dj on it with the bare minimum of other things i need will i still have to fear it crashing on me? I will only need it for DJing. I can just use my old pc at home for other stuff like surfing or other things that i need.
Inviato Thu 22 Mar 07 @ 8:21 pm
DJ Marcel_1
Couple of different answers for you there.....
But much like buying a car - just buy one that suits your purpose.
Mac's and Pc's both have ups and downs. Personally I use a PC in a rack-mounted case, and have no problems with this setup.
personal preference - some for image some for other reasons.
But much like buying a car - just buy one that suits your purpose.
Mac's and Pc's both have ups and downs. Personally I use a PC in a rack-mounted case, and have no problems with this setup.
personal preference - some for image some for other reasons.
Inviato Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 12:41 am
no1djkb
Thanks a lot for answering my question. You helped me make my decision. I will probably get a pc. I kind of figured that it really did not matter but I wanted to hear it from someone who uses it on a regular basis. Since I DJ two to three times a month on a average it should not matter anyway. I just can't wait to get virtual DJ after I get my notebook. I am so pumped up about it. The only thing I am going to hate is taking all of my records (well most of them) and converting them to mp3s.
Hey I know most of you guys have everything but just incase some don't have any remixes of some oldschool R&B and hip-hop, I will be glad to share it with you. I have a lot of promos With some nice remixes from back in the day. I also have some nice house and freestyle remixes as well.
Hey I know most of you guys have everything but just incase some don't have any remixes of some oldschool R&B and hip-hop, I will be glad to share it with you. I have a lot of promos With some nice remixes from back in the day. I also have some nice house and freestyle remixes as well.
Inviato Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 1:40 pm
anewsome
no1djkb wrote :
Hey I know most of you guys have everything but just incase some don't have any remixes of some oldschool R&B and hip-hop, I will be glad to share it with you. I have a lot of promos With some nice remixes from back in the day. I also have some nice house and freestyle remixes as well.
Hey I know most of you guys have everything but just incase some don't have any remixes of some oldschool R&B and hip-hop, I will be glad to share it with you. I have a lot of promos With some nice remixes from back in the day. I also have some nice house and freestyle remixes as well.
Please don't organize any illegal file sharing on this forum.
Inviato Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 5:04 pm
no1djkb
how is sharing music that i have either purchased or was giving to me by a record company representive illegal? If i make a mix cd or just a regular cd and give it to someone isn't that the same? from what i was told, getting new music instead of buying it was illegal. my remixes are 80's and early 90's.
Inviato Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 7:13 pm
anewsome
no1djkb wrote :
how is sharing music that i have either purchased or was giving to me by a record company representive illegal? If i make a mix cd or just a regular cd and give it to someone isn't that the same? from what i was told, getting new music instead of buying it was illegal. my remixes are 80's and early 90's.
if you think that you can freely share music that was given to you by record labels, you clearly have not read your license agreement with them. there is no record label or record pool in the world that i know of, that allows you to freely share the copyrighted material they license you to play for promotional purposes.
if you show me this in writing, i'll shutup and agree that you were right and i was wrong.
in the meantime, atomix would prefer you not use this forum to organize illegal file swapping.
Inviato Fri 23 Mar 07 @ 7:23 pm
SpeedDemond29
no1djkb wrote :
how is sharing music that i have either purchased or was giving to me by a record company representive illegal? If i make a mix cd or just a regular cd and give it to someone isn't that the same? from what i was told, getting new music instead of buying it was illegal. my remixes are 80's and early 90's.
I am forced to agree with anewsome. No matter if you created a mix or someone else created a mix, your still using the original artists' music. It's like using a picture from someone elses web site on yours (even if you made changes to it). LEGALLY you are required to have permission from the site owner in order to use that certain picture (expecially logos) on your site.
If they gave you a CD or RECORD, it was INTENDED FOR YOU ONLY. They wouldn't be happy if you were sharing it with the world; via download.
Leaving info on illegal file downloading may not be a good idea on vdj.com (or anywhere for that matter) especially if you buy VDJ.
Inviato Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 2:09 am
ConQuest
no1djkb wrote :
Asking around from people in my IT department to friends, they all say Mac notebooks are really good but you can get a really good dell notebook with xp on it that will serve the purpose.
Why get a Dell and be stuck with only windows when you can have a Mac and run ANY OS that you want?
There's a reason that your IT people, as well as a former IT person like myself are telling you "Mac notebooks are really good."
Chances are that unless you're a gamer, or have a windows only application that you absolutely have to use, you don't need windows at all. MOST users are quickly finding out that they only need microsoft Office.
People have psychologically (in no small part due to microsoft's propoganda... I mean... marketing) tied windows (the problematic and juvenile OS that lots of people THOUGHT they needed) into microsoft Office (the application that they actually DO need).
Once those people find out that Office is (and always has been) available for Mac, they dump windows quicker than you can say "windows is a flaming pile of unstable, insecure, incompatibile, performance degrading and unnecessarily high maintenenace junk".
Then there are those that really do still need windows, and find comfort in the fact that they can run ANY OS on their Macs.
That's why windows users have been switching to Macs by the hundreds of thousands annually since 2005, and that number will easily clear 1 million this year.
no1djkb wrote :
My question is why do most DJ's use mac?
No one likes to be in constant fear of their computer taking an embarassing dive on them in front of hundreds or thousands of people.
I've seen it happen to world famous turntablists diuring live performances up until a couple of years ago. That's because for the past couple of years they've all switched to Macs, so there's no more high profile horror stories about windows taking a dump on them.
The crowd doesn't say "windows sucks", they say "dj (enter windows using dj who should have known better name here) sucks".
It's unfortunate but true... and far more avoidable if they use Macs.
That's why "all the dj's use Mac" as you have stated.
no1djkb wrote :
If I get a notebook that just has virtual dj on it with the bare minimum of other things i need will i still have to fear it crashing on me?
Probably. It's windows.
If you want to focus more on being productive and trouble free rather than tweaking things just so that your computer stays stable, secure, compatible, and maintains it's performance, then get a Mac. http://www.apple.com/getamac/
no1djkb wrote :
I will only need it for DJing.
Most windows users "only" need their windows pc's to do minimal tasks like write letters and do simple microsoft Office related tasks. Nothing nearly as difficult or tasking as DJ'ing.
Yet those people all rely on armies of IT people to maintain their windows computers in the workplace. Yet when they get home, they're dead.
THAT is why windows users are switching to Macs in huge mass. They just want a computer that works.
They just want Macs.
no1djkb wrote :
I can just use my old pc at home for other stuff like surfing or other things that i need.
Why would you use an insecure windows pc to surf or rely on for any reason? It's because people want to go online with security and want to work on their computers reliably that they are switching to Macs.
As a matter of fact, it's because so many users are tired of the "walking on broken glass" feeling that windows gives them, and the need to have separate windows computers to "only" do certain things, that so many users find it refreshing to be able to do EVERYTHING that they need (and want) to do on a Mac. =)
Ask yourself, why have new Mac forums been formed here on Atomix's website? Why is everybody (Atomix, Numark, and large parts of both of their user bases, especially the professional) biting tooth and nail awaiting the release of the Mac version of VDJ/VV? VDJ already has 4+ million users, so why bother with the "insignificant" Mac market?
Because Mac users are SO significant, and multiplying in droves. THAT'S why. ;)
- VT ConQuest
(Visual Turntablist)
Inviato Sat 24 Mar 07 @ 7:11 am
DjBoj
Any games, Office, Accounting, email....use a PC. But, Especially for doing a PAID djay work where your reputation and referal business is based on your integrity and reliablility, BUY A FRIGGIN MAC! No worries, just plug your hardware and setup fast and spin. Thats all! No lag on music search no issues of system crashes or freezing. No worries about viruses, no worries of keeping your computer as barebones as possible, none of that. MAC will be your most reliable work horse over a PCwhen it comes to anything creative! Why waste time in tweeking Windows and keeping it just running djay stuff when you can do it all on a MAC! Spend the $ buy a MAC, you'll make the $ back on the more gigs you get.
Inviato Sun 25 Mar 07 @ 6:10 pm
DjBoj
Why would you use an insecure windows pc to surf or rely on for any reason? It's because people want to go online with security and want to work on their computers reliably that they are switching to Macs.
As a matter of fact, it's because so many users are tired of the "walking on broken glass" feeling that windows gives them, and the need to have separate windows computers to "only" do certain things, that so many users find it refreshing to be able to do EVERYTHING that they need (and want) to do on a Mac. =)
Ask yourself, why have new Mac forums been formed here on Atomix's website? Why is everybody (Atomix, Numark, and large parts of both of their user bases, especially the professional) biting tooth and nail awaiting the release of the Mac version of VDJ/VV? VDJ already has 4+ million users, so why bother with the "insignificant" Mac market?
Because Mac users are SO significant, and multiplying in droves. THAT'S why. ;)
BEAUTIFUL POST CONQUEST!!! Once you go MAC you never go Back! ...well, maybe foe quickbooks.. I just got my macbook. TORQ & SERATO, work awesome on it! Is there a VDJ version yet for mac?
As a matter of fact, it's because so many users are tired of the "walking on broken glass" feeling that windows gives them, and the need to have separate windows computers to "only" do certain things, that so many users find it refreshing to be able to do EVERYTHING that they need (and want) to do on a Mac. =)
Ask yourself, why have new Mac forums been formed here on Atomix's website? Why is everybody (Atomix, Numark, and large parts of both of their user bases, especially the professional) biting tooth and nail awaiting the release of the Mac version of VDJ/VV? VDJ already has 4+ million users, so why bother with the "insignificant" Mac market?
Because Mac users are SO significant, and multiplying in droves. THAT'S why. ;)
BEAUTIFUL POST CONQUEST!!! Once you go MAC you never go Back! ...well, maybe foe quickbooks.. I just got my macbook. TORQ & SERATO, work awesome on it! Is there a VDJ version yet for mac?
Inviato Sun 25 Mar 07 @ 6:18 pm
ConQuest
DjBoj wrote :
BEAUTIFUL POST CONQUEST!!! Once you go MAC you never go Back! ...well, maybe foe quickbooks.. I just got my macbook. TORQ & SERATO, work awesome on it! Is there a VDJ version yet for mac?
Quickbooks comes with every MacBook Pro and Mac Pro tower. ;) Quicken comes with every Mac mini, MacBook, and iMac.
We're all waiting anxiously for the Mac version DjBoj.
I know Musikmesse is this week in Germany. That seems like a good music industry trade show to launch VDJ/VV Mac to me. =)
Inviato Sun 25 Mar 07 @ 11:45 pm
KingLyon
I have a MAC. PowerBook OS9.22 Can I use VDJ with it?
Inviato Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 2:08 am
ConQuest
KingLyon wrote :
I have a MAC. PowerBook OS9.22 Can I use VDJ with it?
Unfortunately no.
Apple stopped supporting "classic" Mac OS (9 and all other pre-OS X) back in late 2002 with the release of 10.2 Jaguar.
Inviato Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 2:24 am
KingLyon
Ok if my PowerBook can take OS X 10.2 Jaguar will VDJ work with it?
Inviato Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 2:27 am
ConQuest
KingLyon wrote :
Ok if my PowerBook can take OS X 10.2 Jaguar will VDJ work with it?
I'm not sure what the specs are for VDJ Mac. We'll know as soon as it gets released very shortly.
However, there's no point to simply upgrading to 10.2. You should get 10.4 Tiger which is available now, or 10.5 Leopard which will be released by June at the latest.
Assuming your PowerBook meets the system req's for any of those OS's of course.
Is your PB a G3 or G4?
Inviato Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 2:50 am
SpeedDemond29
Hey Quest...what happened to that Forum you started about the possible release of VDJ? Why was it deleted?
Inviato Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 2:11 pm
djcel
SpeedDemond29 wrote :
Hey Quest...what happened to that Forum you started about the possible release of VDJ? Why was it deleted?
not deleted but just moderated because this post was only based on thoughts.
Conquest: It's useless to guess and you make loose the time of users who want to have real information. When the mac version will be available, you will know it.
Best Regards
Inviato Mon 26 Mar 07 @ 3:19 pm
ConQuest
There are thousands of news and rumor sites on the internet. I wasn't making rampant speculation, nor was I divulging any confidential information as I don't have any.
It was an educated guess based on time and circumstance. The deletion of that thread was completely unnecessary.
Apple learned very quicly that everytime that they sent Apple legal after a website with an order to delete some information that had been posted, that they were making a big mistake.
Every time they did that, it was like confirming to the masses that what had been posted was true and further fueled the rumor mill. Now, they purposely let things slide or even plant rumors themselves to throw people off track.
Yeah, delete the "when is the Mac version coming out?"? threads, but intelligent speculation is still just speculation, does not violate any rules or policies, and there's nothing wrong with creating intelligent conversation.
It was an educated guess based on time and circumstance. The deletion of that thread was completely unnecessary.
Apple learned very quicly that everytime that they sent Apple legal after a website with an order to delete some information that had been posted, that they were making a big mistake.
Every time they did that, it was like confirming to the masses that what had been posted was true and further fueled the rumor mill. Now, they purposely let things slide or even plant rumors themselves to throw people off track.
Yeah, delete the "when is the Mac version coming out?"? threads, but intelligent speculation is still just speculation, does not violate any rules or policies, and there's nothing wrong with creating intelligent conversation.
Inviato Tue 27 Mar 07 @ 1:04 am
no1djkb
Guys I was corrected on the music thing. It was just a point of not knowing. I know a lot of record shops that cell mixed CD's all the time and Atlanta as well as my home city in Tennessee. Never heard anyone getting into any trouble for it. If you guys say it is illegal then I believe you.
Inviato Thu 29 Mar 07 @ 2:36 pm
no1djkb
Conquest thanks for the info. I think I am going to still get a PC and upgrade to a Mac when I save up more money. I used a toshiba (guess that is how you spell it:)) I got from the job and used the trial version of VDJ at a function I did this past Sunday. It only lasted for four hours but everything worked perfectly. No lag time at all. I just don't DJ as much as you guys probably do now. I don't want to go deep in the pockets to get a mac. I figure four months then I will have what I need. Thanks so much for your help guys. This forum is the best
Inviato Thu 29 Mar 07 @ 2:57 pm