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Hi,

Can somebody tell me how to stop the volume being set to max when VDJ 7 opens - if I forget to turn it down I scare the hell out of my customers and run the risk of damaging my equipment...?

Many thanks,

Tom.
 

Inviato Sat 13 Oct 12 @ 1:32 am
You need to add <init action="master_volume 50%"> to the XML of the skin you're using.

The % figure can be anything you like, not just 50%....
 

Many thanks - can you point me in the right direction for how to do this?

Tom.
 

First find your skins directory. This will vary depending on what type of computer you use (PC or Mac) and the operating system.

For a Windows 7 PC it would be C:\Users\Tom\Documents\VirtualDJ\Skins

Open up the ZIP file of the skin you use, and then select the XML file for the resolution you're running at.

(best make a backup of the XML and/or ZIP first for safety)
 

You can do this from the mappers tab, you don't need to open the skin XML......
 

If you are using a controller it can be added via mapping, but if there's no controller plugged in then the skin XML will have to be modified instead.

Keith
 

Can't you just do it under the "keyboard" (basically a controller that's always plugged in)?? I'd try it if I was at home but I'm pretty sure you can......... at least I've never put um in the skin XML.....
 

Don't think so Huey, normally the oninit command kicks in when the controller is started up.

Keith
 

Just tried .... you can't add it manually to the keyboard mapping. Even adding it to the keyboard mapping XML doesn't work.

Keith
 

I see, well it's Nice to know.......

Thanks for the info
Huey
 

turn on the amps first

next the mixer

the channel faders and mains should be on 0

the channel strips gain should be around the middle of the sweep of the knob, sometimes

there's a detent ....next raise the channel strips to unity gain, there's usually a detent,

now the channel strips should be at or near optimal levels

next try to raise the mains to there optimal gain , usually marked .....

if raising the mains that high is too much, then you go back to the channel strips and adjust....

try to leave the faders at unity and just reduce the gains , then try again

try and leave yourself some headroom somewhere , maybe leave some room for more gain

on your controller faders or on the channel faders gains on the mixer .......

once the mains are set properly don't adjust them , make changes with the channel strips only
 

Forget modifying the skin to start the master volume at 50%... you should always start with your volume at a low setting and bring he volume up gradually otherwise you'll run the risk of blowing up your speakers and scaring the crap outta everyone. Come on man, this DJing 101 stuff.
 

Agreed, so why is the volume on VDJ set to max on opening the program, not min?
 

The Bocabar wrote :
Agreed, so why is the volume on VDJ set to max on opening the program, not min?


Because if it was set at the minimum volume level at start-up then there'd be a million posts saying "I can't get any sound out of VDJ". The makers of VDJ probably assumed that a DJ wouldn't be stupid enough to just hit play before checking volume levels first and blowing up their speakers.
 

chucknorrisyouwimps wrote :
turn on the amps first

next the mixer

I strongly disagree with this order. There's a very good reason why you should follow your signal's path when you turn-on your equipment and exactly the reverse order when you turn it off: Electronic charges/discharges

In a typical CD-Players->Mixer->EQ->Crossover->Amps system the correct order to turn them ON would be:
1. CD-Players
2. Mixer
3. EQ
4. Crossover
5. Amps
6. Amps attenuators set to the optimum level.

Correct order to turn OFF:
1. Amps attenuators to -oo (or 0)
2. Power off amps.
3. Power off crossover
4. Power off EQ
5. Power off Mixer
6. Power off CD-Players


Back to OP:
Not all users connect their amps/powered speakers directly on their controller/soundcard. That's not a good practice. But even then, you (as a DJ) should have the "habit" to always check your levels before hitting PLAY for a first time.
If you were given a "real" hardware mixer, wouldn't you check it's master volume setting before hitting play and go live?
 

Absolutely, it seems this forum is a continual learning curve for some.

Turn amp on last and off first, you can blow your speakers easily just turning stuff off and on wrong.
 

the discharges are capacitors releasing there charges, i don't believe that can be affected by the starting

order ......

i will research this issue and post back

at any rate don't turn things on at full blast if you can help it







 

I have always turned my amps or powered speakers on last, after everything is hooked up and on. Especially anything in the chain from my hardware mixer to the amp. The reason for this is mainly popping when units power up or connections are made, it's not nice to ears or speakers. Before the mixer, or to the mixer is fine if the main fader is all the way down.

When using my controller, I have a "startup procedure" every time. Start laptop, make sure nothing is running that I don't want (I use it for more then gigging). Plug in controller (if it wasn't when I started VDJ), and external monitor (If I'm doing karaoke or video). Start VDJ, turn on video, move all faders, etc. on the controller, including moving the main down to 0. This puts the crossovers (video/audio) where I expect them. I also visually see everything move so I know the controller is working. Then, after starting a track, I start to bring up my levels.
 

you guys are correct , i was wrong

i have a learning curve......i used to know it all,

but i forgot some........

usually i setup my table w/ mixer and laptop at the best spot possible

now boot up and test controller

next locate speakers , then run wires , then try to secure wires running back to the table

when back at the table lower all faders n mains to zero turn on mixer, next walk back out to spkrs

and then turn them on( jbl self powered) so, that being the order , the amp did go on last......

i did some research and actually tried some scenarios with my systems.......

if you turn on amps (in this case my amps are still in storage so i am talking selfpowered spkrs)

they pop no matter what , also everything else seems to pop also (capacitors) the loudness is probably

a function of there output section power ..... they pop even when at zero... i have 3 mixers , surprisingly the smallest

(and cheapest) has the biggest

pop? i'm guessing due to cheesier construction?? at any rate they all pop , you just don't hear it if the amp

isn't on.....the amps pop and the only thing you can do in there case is to turn them down (sometimes not possible

in a club)
 

Good amps have relays fitted between the output electronics and the speaker connections, which turn on shortly after the amp powers up - so the "pop" doesn't reach the speakers.
 

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