Beat juggling with real vinyl is more on point because you will always go back to the part you have line leveled. Using Timecodes, you have to have a high perecentage % in the time code quality for the wave form not to skip. When you scratch and look at the time code quality.. it drops alot.. When it drops, your lined level goes off.
Inviato Tue 25 Nov 08 @ 5:57 pm
djcaraby wrote :
dj chachi...............
dj electric........
i got your joke if nobody else did! haha
To clear it up for some people that may not know, before djs used computers, there was no way to see the wave form of the track you were playing! Us turntablist put stickers on our vinyl so the can visualize start points or scratch points on the record so we didn't have to take the extra time to search for it in with headphones!
its the same exact thing as marking cues on your tracks in vdj! imagine if vdj didn't have wave forms for you to see when the first beat hits or when the first word was gonna drop or the bpm sync feature?!?!?!? you would have to take time to cue it up in the head phones and then start the mix. now what happens if you mess up on the first try? you have to repeat this process over and over again if your not that good at mixing! next thing you know the song runs out and your getting boo'ed. NOT FUN
so whether there on your tracks in vdj or on your records you spin, cues just make mixing and scratching easier and flow quicker! now that i can see all the tracks i play in this computer age , i rarely use headphones to mix any more! THANKS VDJ!!! ha ha
dj electric........
i got your joke if nobody else did! haha
To clear it up for some people that may not know, before djs used computers, there was no way to see the wave form of the track you were playing! Us turntablist put stickers on our vinyl so the can visualize start points or scratch points on the record so we didn't have to take the extra time to search for it in with headphones!
its the same exact thing as marking cues on your tracks in vdj! imagine if vdj didn't have wave forms for you to see when the first beat hits or when the first word was gonna drop or the bpm sync feature?!?!?!? you would have to take time to cue it up in the head phones and then start the mix. now what happens if you mess up on the first try? you have to repeat this process over and over again if your not that good at mixing! next thing you know the song runs out and your getting boo'ed. NOT FUN
so whether there on your tracks in vdj or on your records you spin, cues just make mixing and scratching easier and flow quicker! now that i can see all the tracks i play in this computer age , i rarely use headphones to mix any more! THANKS VDJ!!! ha ha
I knew the old school huys would get it, just hoped some of the new schoolers would get the irony. I actually used to use grease markers (Stabilo's), but I was a sign maker so I had alot of grease markers around. When using VHS videos I used to keep a notebook with the counter numbers written down...that was a pain because I needed three sets of numbers as the counters were different on each of our three machines.
sonido1902 wrote :
No guys why dont yall try THIS on VDJ...
"Dj Kool Kat"........amazingly he sounds better than most scratch djs!
Inviato Tue 25 Nov 08 @ 6:00 pm
he knows his cue points without marking them..
Inviato Tue 25 Nov 08 @ 6:03 pm
What's the issue about the stickers??????
That's not cheating, is a physical cue.
That's not cheating, is a physical cue.
Inviato Tue 25 Nov 08 @ 8:25 pm
There is nothing wrong with the stickers... I used to use stickers on my hop hop vinyls back in the late 80s.
Inviato Tue 25 Nov 08 @ 9:49 pm
cstoll wrote :
I think before you start calling guys 'jerks' you should know who they are ... he is a VirtualDJ VIP User and it is a follow-on video that he made specifically to draw comments here in VirtualDJ and not on youTube. That is why it is locked on youTube. And it is VirtualDJ he is using.
As for you personal opinion of the vinyl control that's cool appreciate the feedback but you could tone the disappointment several different ways. And blasting every TCV discussion is not that cool. We gladly want you to vent your frustrations and dislike ... but you don't have to do it by overposting in every thread that talks about timecode and VirtualDJ.
Thanks
Dj Chachi wrote :
Yes I know that, still not a difference. When it comes to TCV, virtualdj sucks. Besides if you watch the video there is no proof that he's using virtualdj, never show the monitor, plus the jerk dissable adding comments, and he knows why.
SBDJ wrote :
I haven't watched the video, but you do know you can use both the serato box, and serato TCVs with VDJ don't you?
Dj Chachi wrote :
But if you watch closely he is using Serato box and Serato TCV, plus Adding comments has been disabled; I wonder why?
I haven't watched the video, but you do know you can use both the serato box, and serato TCVs with VDJ don't you?
Yes I know that, still not a difference. When it comes to TCV, virtualdj sucks. Besides if you watch the video there is no proof that he's using virtualdj, never show the monitor, plus the jerk dissable adding comments, and he knows why.
I think before you start calling guys 'jerks' you should know who they are ... he is a VirtualDJ VIP User and it is a follow-on video that he made specifically to draw comments here in VirtualDJ and not on youTube. That is why it is locked on youTube. And it is VirtualDJ he is using.
As for you personal opinion of the vinyl control that's cool appreciate the feedback but you could tone the disappointment several different ways. And blasting every TCV discussion is not that cool. We gladly want you to vent your frustrations and dislike ... but you don't have to do it by overposting in every thread that talks about timecode and VirtualDJ.
Thanks
Prove is virtualdj or else tell me a cowboy story, maybe I'll believe that one.
AND
Good for him if he is a virtualdj VIP (no offence about the jerk part, is not personal), I don't even care if is Obama behind the turntables, call me liar when I say a lie but if I don't lie then.... I've said it and I'll repeated, Virtualdj is rock solid when it comes to mouse and MIDI controllers, but it sucks when it comes to TCV (if we are speaking of fast back spinnig and beat juggling).
I supported this program since version 3.0. I could have a crack version and I didn’t. At that moment I thought that virtualdj programmers deserved to be rewarded and supported for there hard work and for making a so good dam program and I still do, but like a said before, call me a liar when you get me saying a lie.
I'll be more than happy to apologiez to every one on the forum if you prove me wrong by demostrating it was virtualdj.
You Are Welcome
and don't bug me for saying the thruth.
Inviato Tue 25 Nov 08 @ 11:35 pm
Caliente123 wrote :
There is nothing wrong with the stickers... I used to use stickers on my hop hop vinyls back in the late 80s.
Don't tell anybody! I still use the stickers ha ha ha ha ha, I'm old school, started dj in 1984.
Inviato Tue 25 Nov 08 @ 11:39 pm
go chachi go chachi go
why dont you post a link of yourself on youtube scratching so we can see exactly where vdj doesnt keep up with your skills?
word.
why dont you post a link of yourself on youtube scratching so we can see exactly where vdj doesnt keep up with your skills?
word.
Inviato Wed 26 Nov 08 @ 1:48 am
Adamjmeek
The issue is not the Dj. He is dam good, awesome, even better than me beat juggling. What I don't like is some one trying to trick me in believing something when is another. That's all the issue here. If he's using virtualdj well great I wish he is, I wish the problem is that I don’t know how to set up virtualdj, man I wish is a mistake of mine. But what I wish the most is that virtualdj was as responsive with TCV like other programs are.
Don't get me wrong, I love virtualdj the only discontent I have is the TCV response. Is not like I have stop using the program, I still use it with DAC3 controller and with the mouse and keyboard. As a matter fact is the program I use for recording my mix sessions, the recording feature on the program is great, like a lot of other features on the program.
Maybe I've been using the wrong words or I haven’t been expressing my self the right way. I'm more a speaker than I'm a writer. I really don't want to piss everyone on this forum, but there is something I will always stand for; the truth, call me a liar when I say a lie.
The issue is not the Dj. He is dam good, awesome, even better than me beat juggling. What I don't like is some one trying to trick me in believing something when is another. That's all the issue here. If he's using virtualdj well great I wish he is, I wish the problem is that I don’t know how to set up virtualdj, man I wish is a mistake of mine. But what I wish the most is that virtualdj was as responsive with TCV like other programs are.
Don't get me wrong, I love virtualdj the only discontent I have is the TCV response. Is not like I have stop using the program, I still use it with DAC3 controller and with the mouse and keyboard. As a matter fact is the program I use for recording my mix sessions, the recording feature on the program is great, like a lot of other features on the program.
Maybe I've been using the wrong words or I haven’t been expressing my self the right way. I'm more a speaker than I'm a writer. I really don't want to piss everyone on this forum, but there is something I will always stand for; the truth, call me a liar when I say a lie.
Inviato Wed 26 Nov 08 @ 6:06 am
Dj Chachi wrote :
Prove is virtualdj or else tell me a cowboy story, maybe I'll believe that one.
AND
Good for him if he is a virtualdj VIP (no offence about the jerk part, is not personal), I don't even care if is Obama behind the turntables, call me liar when I say a lie but if I don't lie then.... I've said it and I'll repeated, Virtualdj is rock solid when it comes to mouse and MIDI controllers, but it sucks when it comes to TCV (if we are speaking of fast back spinnig and beat juggling).
I supported this program since version 3.0. I could have a crack version and I didn’t. At that moment I thought that virtualdj programmers deserved to be rewarded and supported for there hard work and for making a so good dam program and I still do, but like a said before, call me a liar when you get me saying a lie.
I'll be more than happy to apologiez to every one on the forum if you prove me wrong by demostrating it was virtualdj.
You Are Welcome
and don't bug me for saying the truth.
cstoll wrote :
I think before you start calling guys 'jerks' you should know who they are ... he is a VirtualDJ VIP User and it is a follow-on video that he made specifically to draw comments here in VirtualDJ and not on youTube. That is why it is locked on youTube. And it is VirtualDJ he is using.
As for you personal opinion of the vinyl control that's cool appreciate the feedback but you could tone the disappointment several different ways. And blasting every TCV discussion is not that cool. We gladly want you to vent your frustrations and dislike ... but you don't have to do it by overposting in every thread that talks about timecode and VirtualDJ.
Thanks
Dj Chachi wrote :
Yes I know that, still not a difference. When it comes to TCV, virtualdj sucks. Besides if you watch the video there is no proof that he's using virtualdj, never show the monitor, plus the jerk dissable adding comments, and he knows why.
SBDJ wrote :
I haven't watched the video, but you do know you can use both the serato box, and serato TCVs with VDJ don't you?
Dj Chachi wrote :
But if you watch closely he is using Serato box and Serato TCV, plus Adding comments has been disabled; I wonder why?
I haven't watched the video, but you do know you can use both the serato box, and serato TCVs with VDJ don't you?
Yes I know that, still not a difference. When it comes to TCV, virtualdj sucks. Besides if you watch the video there is no proof that he's using virtualdj, never show the monitor, plus the jerk dissable adding comments, and he knows why.
I think before you start calling guys 'jerks' you should know who they are ... he is a VirtualDJ VIP User and it is a follow-on video that he made specifically to draw comments here in VirtualDJ and not on youTube. That is why it is locked on youTube. And it is VirtualDJ he is using.
As for you personal opinion of the vinyl control that's cool appreciate the feedback but you could tone the disappointment several different ways. And blasting every TCV discussion is not that cool. We gladly want you to vent your frustrations and dislike ... but you don't have to do it by overposting in every thread that talks about timecode and VirtualDJ.
Thanks
Prove is virtualdj or else tell me a cowboy story, maybe I'll believe that one.
AND
Good for him if he is a virtualdj VIP (no offence about the jerk part, is not personal), I don't even care if is Obama behind the turntables, call me liar when I say a lie but if I don't lie then.... I've said it and I'll repeated, Virtualdj is rock solid when it comes to mouse and MIDI controllers, but it sucks when it comes to TCV (if we are speaking of fast back spinnig and beat juggling).
I supported this program since version 3.0. I could have a crack version and I didn’t. At that moment I thought that virtualdj programmers deserved to be rewarded and supported for there hard work and for making a so good dam program and I still do, but like a said before, call me a liar when you get me saying a lie.
I'll be more than happy to apologiez to every one on the forum if you prove me wrong by demostrating it was virtualdj.
You Are Welcome
and don't bug me for saying the truth.
Inviato Wed 26 Nov 08 @ 6:10 am
adamjmeek wrote :
go chachi go chachi go
why dont you post a link of yourself on youtube scratching so we can see exactly where vdj doesnt keep up with your skills?
word.
why dont you post a link of yourself on youtube scratching so we can see exactly where vdj doesnt keep up with your skills?
word.
I'm trying to
Inviato Wed 26 Nov 08 @ 9:27 am
theres been alot of qouting...hehehehe..well i was trying to scratcg on my Total control..really pointless..hehehe..i was scratching at this stores demo turntables..i didnt know what i was doing i was just scratching..i was doing what the djs do on videos..younow..scratch,scratch and bring the fader all the way to the other side..IT WAS FUN!!!! Im ganna get me some turntables...
Inviato Wed 26 Nov 08 @ 10:25 am
Dj Chachi wrote :
If he's using virtualdj well great I wish he is, I wish the problem is that I don’t know how to set up virtualdj, man I wish is a mistake of mine. But what I wish the most is that virtualdj was as responsive with TCV like other programs are.
Don't get me wrong, I love virtualdj the only discontent I have is the TCV response
Don't get me wrong, I love virtualdj the only discontent I have is the TCV response
Have you posted up a thread asking for assistance on your TCV setup? I guess this guy has managed to get the right hardware and setup to have it working well enough for him? Maybe the community would be able to advise you.
I also don't know how you're going to get this "proof" since you won't believe anyone, and I suspect you won't even believe the DJ if he posts up ;)
Inviato Wed 26 Nov 08 @ 10:29 am
@ dj-e-lectric
Sorry, I should have known you were funnin'.
u got me.
Sorry, I should have known you were funnin'.
u got me.
Inviato Wed 26 Nov 08 @ 11:28 am
SBDJ wrote :
Have you posted up a thread asking for assistance on your TCV setup? I guess this guy has managed to get the right hardware and setup to have it working well enough for him? Maybe the community would be able to advise you.
I also don't know how you're going to get this "proof" since you won't believe anyone, and I suspect you won't even believe the DJ if he posts up ;)
Dj Chachi wrote :
If he's using virtualdj well great I wish he is, I wish the problem is that I don’t know how to set up virtualdj, man I wish is a mistake of mine. But what I wish the most is that virtualdj was as responsive with TCV like other programs are.
Don't get me wrong, I love virtualdj the only discontent I have is the TCV response
Don't get me wrong, I love virtualdj the only discontent I have is the TCV response
Have you posted up a thread asking for assistance on your TCV setup? I guess this guy has managed to get the right hardware and setup to have it working well enough for him? Maybe the community would be able to advise you.
I also don't know how you're going to get this "proof" since you won't believe anyone, and I suspect you won't even believe the DJ if he posts up ;)
The proof is really not important. What's really important to me is to know for certain that virtualdj can handle something like that and that I'm not been mislead. Because If it can it gives me some hope to keep trying. By the way I haven’t stop trying; like a said before I really like the program, I consider it one of the best. I could be something in my set up; I don't know I'm still trying.
Change of subject:
I'm going to take a moment to wish all of you a happy Thanks Giving and at the same time I want to apologize if I made somebody feel bad or disrespected someone with my comments. My bad.
Inviato Thu 27 Nov 08 @ 7:34 am
I can post a BUNCH of videos of flawless Virtual DJ timecode mixing. It depends on your HARDWARE!
SSL got an advantage, as it has a DEDICATED soundcard.. and that soundcard ONLY
So lets look at Virtual Vinyl (Virtual DJ with a dedicated souncard)
And I can post testemonies from World class djs too for that matter....
You cant compare VDJ with a crap RadioShack card, with Serato or Traktor with dedicated card.
Use a great card with VDJ, and it shines..
But of course, there are room for improvements, in all softwares...
Inviato Thu 27 Nov 08 @ 12:53 pm