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Topic: Not same BPM: Shitty mix.

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Hi guys.


I've got this problem, whenever 2 tracks aint the same BPM it cant beatmatch one single track correctly.
I know that VirtualDJ can't beat match all tracks, but this issue is with ALL tracks, that does'nt have the same BPM.

It like its about a second to late, and makes it sound shitty - ofc.
If the songs is the same BPM it's no problem.


Im running Win7 x64 - also tried running it in compability mode.
Worked fine on Vista and XP.

Also tried with both my soundcards, and VirtualDJ 6, 5.2.. same issue.
Also tried tweaking the performances etc. - same problem.


Any ideas?
 
Inviato Tue 15 Dec 09 @ 2:56 pm
I know this sound stupid but have you tried making them the same bpm, thats what DJs do!
 
Are you using a cracked version of VDJ or the legitimate latest demo version?
 
daboy - [edited].

kradcliffe - it's the lastest demo version. I've desperately also tried 5.2 as written above, didn't changed a thing.
I'm going to purchase VirtualDJ, but not if it does'nt work correctly on Win7 x64.
 
unavailable wrote :

I'm going to purchase VirtualDJ, but not if it does'nt work correctly on Win7 x64.


VDJ is fully compliant with W7 32 or 64.
Device drivers are another story and does not effect the base operation of vdj stand alone.

Please be kind with your replies towards other users, sometimes the obvious is just that and not realized based on user experience and we get all levels of that in this forum.

BPM accuracy is essential to mixing tracks manually or otherwise.
Drift is another out of our control factor.
Tracks that change in tempo also present a problem that vdj cannot compensate for.

Some tracks will be dead on, some are horrible.

In the wave form, if you see the cbg anchors are not aligned, or are changing the track is usually drifting.
Its easliy fixed by striking the bpm button to the beat while the track is playing to correct it live.
Another method is below and more accurate.
If you click the bpm editor by right clicking on it and select "edit grid", find the first down beat and select first "set beat" button .
Start the track and count out 8, 16 or 32 beats and stop the track setting the second "set beat" button.
By correcting the beat count window to the corresponding number of beats that occurred, the real time bpm will be reflected.
If you counted 8, 16 or 32, put that number in the window and close.

Some urban HH beats or songs in 5/4 time will present a problem for the bpm engine in vdj and need manual correction.
In config/options select the allow < 80 bpm feature to "smart" to help over come some of the skipped or carried beats that occur in some of these kinds of tracks.
Some tracks double in time and are also easily corrected in the bpm editor.

Hope that helps
 
unavailable wrote :
I've got this problem, whenever 2 tracks aint the same BPM it cant beatmatch one single track correctly.
I know that VirtualDJ can't beat match all tracks, but this issue is with ALL tracks, that does'nt have the same BPM.

It like its about a second to late, and makes it sound shitty - ofc.
If the songs is the same BPM it's no problem.


I'm trying to understand your question. I think you are saying that if you line up the blocks under the waveform display, these can be out of sync and make the mix sound bad. If this is true then you can edit the BPM and position of the blocks for every single track.

While VDJ does a good job at working out the BPM it isn't perfect. For some slower R&B tracks the BPM can often be set at twice what it should be. Also if there is a long intro without a beat, then VDJ may put the "big block" marker in the wrong place.

If you right click on the deck's BPM button you should get a popup that allows you to move the blocks and align them correctly under the beats and even manually set the BPM. This will then sort out your mixing problem.

The alternative is to ignore this and beat match manually using the pitch sliders and headphones to get the mix right - as you would with vinyl or CD.

VDJ provides all the tools that you need, you just need to use them effectively.

Cheers,

Roy
 
I found out that keylock was enabled on both decks, wasnt using default skin.
So couldnt see the actual keylock on/off.


Works like a charm now!
 
I think the true question here, which is a problem I'm also having: Why can I not beatmatch, either manually or using the sync key, whenever keylock is on? It's no problem as soon as I turn it off, but since I mix tracks that are compatible in key, it is important that they do not get distorted when the tempo is changed. And as soon as keylock is on, on one or both decks, beatmatching is absolutely impossible. It's driving me mad!

Edit: Thought it might be relevant that I've been doing mixing on my friend's pioneer CDJs and mixer, and I can beatmatch without a problem. So I'm pretty sure it's not my lack of skill or practice.
 
i have the same issue with tcv. your match your bpm, you alighn the Cbg and still your wave forms drift.
thats why they have a beat lock. even though when using beatlock you have to always unlock it! that can become a problem when your mixing live.
 


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