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Topic: firewire kept dropping last night?

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first off I DO NOT think this to be a vdj/cue problem.

i use a korg zero 4 for midi, sound card etc. via firewire. last night after about 20 minutes the connection dropped. i figured i bumped the wire or something. so i did what i had to get the connection back and continued on. well soon enough it did it again. i then restarted the laptop and got going again. needless to say it happen 2 more times before i just said f*ck it and ran out of the headphone port in automix for the last hour basically not using the firewire. (good thing we were a bit slow cause of the cold weather) i didn't have anything new or different other than the video freeze and use all memory in the reg tool.

ok no heres the kicker last night i got home from the club, set up the mixer and laptop and ran it in automix with the same plugins etc i had going last night. and it STILL hasn't dropped. the only thing i could think of is the mixer was cold when i brought it in maybe like 30 degrees as it was in my suv overnight.

has any one ever had an inter mitten problem with the connection before? it sucks cause now of course its not doing it and running strong.
 
Inviato Sat 09 Jan 10 @ 11:05 am
Hi mate

Have a quick read of the USB dropout thread as there may be some common ground here.

Daz
 
djsynystr wrote :
first off I DO NOT think this to be a vdj/cue problem.

i use a korg zero 4 for midi, sound card etc. via firewire. last night after about 20 minutes the connection dropped. i figured i bumped the wire or something. so i did what i had to get the connection back and continued on. well soon enough it did it again. i then restarted the laptop and got going again. needless to say it happen 2 more times before i just said f*ck it and ran out of the headphone port in automix for the last hour basically not using the firewire. (good thing we were a bit slow cause of the cold weather) i didn't have anything new or different other than the video freeze and use all memory in the reg tool.

ok no heres the kicker last night i got home from the club, set up the mixer and laptop and ran it in automix with the same plugins etc i had going last night. and it STILL hasn't dropped. the only thing i could think of is the mixer was cold when i brought it in maybe like 30 degrees as it was in my suv overnight.

has any one ever had an inter mitten problem with the connection before? it sucks cause now of course its not doing it and running strong.


I quit using firewire for anything I need dependability with a looooooooooooong time ago. I was always having issues with losing connectivity with hard drives (not when I run VDJ as I have NEVER used firewire with VDJ cause it could never be trusted). I have been having the issue with windows ever since win98. Even today with vista I can't get through a full drive copy on firewire without getting a "delayed write error" and the copy process starting. God forbid if I tried to do more than one copy thread at a time, sometimes the error is so bad it corrupts the directory and the copying it does do is lost.
 
see but i have never had this problem before last night. when i first got the mixer the firewire cord i had was shot and once i switched to a new one i was good to go since. i'm hoping it was the cold equipment or wire that caused it. like i said its been running since last night and still connected via firewire. i hate when things aren't consistant.
 
I use firewire sound and MIDI at 99% of my gigs, nothing wrong with it at all. I had an issue once, which turned out to be a slightly loose fitting firewire cable, so make sure they are nice and snug. Which FW chipset does your machine use?
 
how do i determine that?

also to add today i wiggled both ends of the plug (laptop and mxer sides) and it still didn't drop out.
 
I used to have a problem with dropping a firewire connected device and EVERY single time it was the cord. I would try and new one and see if that fixes your problem.
 
to be fair i hate firewire ever since it was first released it has been unstable. usb was supposed to solve that but has its own issues anyway.

i suppose then you have 2 options. PCI or "KICK IT" lol...

then again ive had major problems with pci this week.. haha so best option then is

"KICK IT"
 
Could this be a power related thing at the venue, like the usb dropout issue?
 
I've been using firewire since I began using VDJ...Never a problem & faster than USB IMHO.
 
chansin wrote :
I used to have a problem with dropping a firewire connected device and EVERY single time it was the cord. I would try and new one and see if that fixes your problem.


+1, The only issue a have with my firewire soundcard was because the cord. I change it and have no issues.
 
Blulite wrote :
to be fair i hate firewire ever since it was first released it has been unstable. usb was supposed to solve that but has its own issues anyway.

i suppose then you have 2 options. PCI or "KICK IT" lol...

then again ive had major problems with pci this week.. haha so best option then is

"KICK IT"


Firewire isn't unstable, not in the slightest. Some chipset implementations were a bit ropey though which can cause major issues on some machines. Some soundcards are recommended to use with certain chipsets. Texas Instruments have always been rated well with broad compatibility, and my Ricoh hasn't missed a beat for me either.

If you're a laptop user (or desktop with suitable hardware) you also have the option of PCMCIA or Expresscard too :)
 
i don't think its a power issue as i have been using the mixer at the venue for over a year with great results. i don't i have no pcmia slot or express slot on my machine. how do i determine what chipset i have?

alos it has been running now for 36+ hours and its still connected and playing fine. WTF!
 
Device Manager will tell you. If it doesn't name it, go into its properties then details. VEN_XXXX will tell you who makes it.
 
it says under details:

Rocoh 1394 OHCI Compliant Host controller
 
i think i found the problem. tonight i was back at the same club i had the problems at last week. i didn't realize it until tonight but the hazer was plugged into the same power strip as my laptop last week and i believe it to have caused the drop of firewire when it kicked on. this week it didn't drop at all and the hazer was plugged into a dif strip. i'm thinking problem solved.
 


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