Hi to all.
First of all i have to say that the one deck auto mix feature is not better than the old. i think it have no reason to be. if you wanted to preview a song you cound do it easy with your headphones from the already loaded deck or a third song with the option "listen to headphones".
So NO reason at all.
BUT I'm not writing here for that.
i realized that there are some problems with this feature.
First of all the "automix_dualdeck" feature is not the solution. it doesnt automix by rythm but when a song ends the next starts! if you think that with this way you give as an option.. what can i say!!
Second with the new feature the RECORD DOESN'T SPLIT TRACKS ON CROSS FADE! so it is USELESS!
and Third i have to say THANK YOU for not appreciate all of as who ARE NOT DJ's! cuting the automix in 2 decks without giving even the option. a real option not this "automix_dualdeck" malfunction! i thought that we pay for this software too... our money are not "Professional DJ's" rated?
Thank you!
First of all i have to say that the one deck auto mix feature is not better than the old. i think it have no reason to be. if you wanted to preview a song you cound do it easy with your headphones from the already loaded deck or a third song with the option "listen to headphones".
So NO reason at all.
BUT I'm not writing here for that.
i realized that there are some problems with this feature.
First of all the "automix_dualdeck" feature is not the solution. it doesnt automix by rythm but when a song ends the next starts! if you think that with this way you give as an option.. what can i say!!
Second with the new feature the RECORD DOESN'T SPLIT TRACKS ON CROSS FADE! so it is USELESS!
and Third i have to say THANK YOU for not appreciate all of as who ARE NOT DJ's! cuting the automix in 2 decks without giving even the option. a real option not this "automix_dualdeck" malfunction! i thought that we pay for this software too... our money are not "Professional DJ's" rated?
Thank you!
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 4:24 am
If you payed for it, why not register your software, then you will be eligible to the extra goodies.
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 6:23 am
extra goodies like what that will solve my problems?
software is fully registered. my boss is responsible for those issues. i only use it. as i said is fully registered.
i dont thing that this is the conversation will solve the one deck problem and its "bugs"(?)..
software is fully registered. my boss is responsible for those issues. i only use it. as i said is fully registered.
i dont thing that this is the conversation will solve the one deck problem and its "bugs"(?)..
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 7:39 am
There are 'no bugs' in the AutoMix.
And why do you need to 'record' an automixed playlist ??
That is why you have a playlist and automix - so that you can playback a listing of songs mixed at anytime. Recording is for DJs that want to make a real mix of them using 2 decks - not to record an 'auto mixed' session.
The automix_dualdeck is a alternative - not a replacement - for the single deck automix. The automix_dualdeck is limited in features as it has always been described.
Dual Deck was replaced almost 3 years ago in version 5.0 - VirtualDJ 5.0 (19 August 2007) - this is our new standard and sorry it has taking you (and your boss) that long to update - but the debate has been had and is over. Single Automix deck is VirtualDJ's current standard and not regressing anytime in the near future.
And why do you need to 'record' an automixed playlist ??
That is why you have a playlist and automix - so that you can playback a listing of songs mixed at anytime. Recording is for DJs that want to make a real mix of them using 2 decks - not to record an 'auto mixed' session.
The automix_dualdeck is a alternative - not a replacement - for the single deck automix. The automix_dualdeck is limited in features as it has always been described.
Dual Deck was replaced almost 3 years ago in version 5.0 - VirtualDJ 5.0 (19 August 2007) - this is our new standard and sorry it has taking you (and your boss) that long to update - but the debate has been had and is over. Single Automix deck is VirtualDJ's current standard and not regressing anytime in the near future.
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 7:50 am
lets try the opposite.
Why i have to give you report about using the record function?
Where exactly the manual says that Record is only for the use you refer?
Where exactly the manual says how i will use the Software?
What make you believe that a Bar is necessary to have Internet connection on the PC using VDJ for updating? so please leave the irony for next time. as a Greek word i know very well how to use this method too.
Thanks a lot for the assistance and sorry for asking.
Why i have to give you report about using the record function?
Where exactly the manual says that Record is only for the use you refer?
Where exactly the manual says how i will use the Software?
What make you believe that a Bar is necessary to have Internet connection on the PC using VDJ for updating? so please leave the irony for next time. as a Greek word i know very well how to use this method too.
Thanks a lot for the assistance and sorry for asking.
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 8:07 am
VeRDeGR wrote :
and Third i have to say THANK YOU for not appreciate all of as who ARE NOT DJ's!
Thank you!
and Third i have to say THANK YOU for not appreciate all of as who ARE NOT DJ's!
Thank you!
In all fairness the program is called "Virtual DJ" so if you feel that non-DJs are left out in the cold then perhaps a program like iTunes will suit your needs better. I think the automix feature is awesome but it's not meant to replace the skills of a DJ. You say you are not a DJ but by the sounds of things you want to pose as a DJ and give people the impression that you are DJing by using automix to "DJ" for you.
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 9:47 am
Well said Dizzy, I was thinkin the same thing.
Huey
Huey
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 10:02 am
In all fairness the program is called "Virtual DJ" so if you feel that non-DJs are left out in the cold then perhaps a program like iTunes will suit your needs better. I think the automix feature is awesome but it's not meant to replace the skills of a DJ. You say you are not a DJ but by the sounds of things you want to pose as a DJ and give people the impression that you are DJing by using automix to "DJ" for you.
a "real DJ" will not buy virtual dj but a real dj deck. i dont know any real DJ playing music in any club with "virtual decks"!
as you said thats why we call it "VIRTUAL" DJ.
if it was a "DJ only" software then the automix why is available? even a rookie dj doesnt need automix. so decide if it is "dj's only" product or not and then i will stop demanding too much.
i dont want the conversation to continue. i took the answers i wanted.
thank you very much.
a "real DJ" will not buy virtual dj but a real dj deck. i dont know any real DJ playing music in any club with "virtual decks"!
as you said thats why we call it "VIRTUAL" DJ.
if it was a "DJ only" software then the automix why is available? even a rookie dj doesnt need automix. so decide if it is "dj's only" product or not and then i will stop demanding too much.
i dont want the conversation to continue. i took the answers i wanted.
thank you very much.
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:16 am
VeRDeGR wrote :
lWhere exactly the manual says that Record is only for the use you refer?
Where exactly the manual says how i will use the Software?
Where exactly the manual says how i will use the Software?
wrong guy to mess with when referring to the manual !!!
And if you are using it in a bar why are you concerned with 'recording' ???
Oh yeah the manual --
"Record Audio provides recording a mix session to a .WAV or .MP3 file direct to the system’s hard drive." pg 54
Doesn't say an automix session ....
Thanks for your DEMAND ... filed under recommendations ...
VeRDeGR wrote :
as you said thats why we call it "VIRTUAL" DJ.
if it was a "DJ only" software then the automix why is available? even a rookie dj doesnt need automix. so decide if it is "dj's only" product or not and then i will stop demanding too much.
if it was a "DJ only" software then the automix why is available? even a rookie dj doesnt need automix. so decide if it is "dj's only" product or not and then i will stop demanding too much.
That is not the reason for the name and if it was for only AUTOMIXING then we would have called it "AUTO DJ" ....
Maybe you not understand the definition of the word --
Main Entry: vir·tu·al
Pronunciation: \ˈvər-chə-wəl, -chəl; ˈvərch-wəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, efficacious, potential, from Medieval Latin virtualis, from Latin virtus strength, virtue
Date: 15th century
1 : being such in essence or effect though not formally recognized or admitted
2 : of, relating to, or using virtual memory
3 : of, relating to, or being a hypothetical particle whose existence is inferred from indirect evidence
4 : being on or simulated on a computer or computer network
Number 4 explains it all .... A DJ being on a computer = VirtualDJ ... you just get the benefit of the simulation of a DJ with AutoMix
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:26 am
Manual:
• Split in multiple files – checked will split the session as separate tracks, instead of one large
audio file. When splitting to separate tracks, a “Cut” button appears next to the “Start
Recording” button to demarcate tracks. The “Auto-split on crossfade” option will automatically
demarcate tracks when the crossfader in the VirtualDJ interface begins to move to the deck
being mixed in.
"""Auto-Split on crossfade"""
Etymology
From French automatique, from Ancient Greek αὐτόματον (automaton), neuter of αὐτόματος (automatos), “‘selfmoving, moving of oneself, self-acting, spontaneous’”), from αὐτός (autos), “‘self, myself’”) + μέμαα (memaa), “‘to wish eagerly, strive, yearn, desire’”).
Adjective
automatic (not comparable)
Positive
automatic
Comparative
not comparable
Superlative
none (absolute)
1. Capable of operating without external control or intervention.
The automatic clothes washer was a great labor-saving device
2. Done out of habit or without conscious thought.
The reaction was automatic: flight!
3. (of a firearm such as a machine gun) Firing continuously as long as the trigger is pressed until ammunition is exhausted.
4. (computing, of a local variable) Automatically added to and removed from the stack during the course of function calls.
No 1 will help you understand the words explenation. know that you became wiser,
as you see in manual, it doesnt say that:
1) "in automixing mode this is not working."
2) "dont record if it is a bar"
3) "if you want to record and you want the splitting works then you pretend the dj so we deactivated it"
• Split in multiple files – checked will split the session as separate tracks, instead of one large
audio file. When splitting to separate tracks, a “Cut” button appears next to the “Start
Recording” button to demarcate tracks. The “Auto-split on crossfade” option will automatically
demarcate tracks when the crossfader in the VirtualDJ interface begins to move to the deck
being mixed in.
"""Auto-Split on crossfade"""
Etymology
From French automatique, from Ancient Greek αὐτόματον (automaton), neuter of αὐτόματος (automatos), “‘selfmoving, moving of oneself, self-acting, spontaneous’”), from αὐτός (autos), “‘self, myself’”) + μέμαα (memaa), “‘to wish eagerly, strive, yearn, desire’”).
Adjective
automatic (not comparable)
Positive
automatic
Comparative
not comparable
Superlative
none (absolute)
1. Capable of operating without external control or intervention.
The automatic clothes washer was a great labor-saving device
2. Done out of habit or without conscious thought.
The reaction was automatic: flight!
3. (of a firearm such as a machine gun) Firing continuously as long as the trigger is pressed until ammunition is exhausted.
4. (computing, of a local variable) Automatically added to and removed from the stack during the course of function calls.
No 1 will help you understand the words explenation. know that you became wiser,
as you see in manual, it doesnt say that:
1) "in automixing mode this is not working."
2) "dont record if it is a bar"
3) "if you want to record and you want the splitting works then you pretend the dj so we deactivated it"
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:37 am
VeRDeGR wrote :
"if you want to record and you want the splitting works then you pretend the dj so we deactivated it"
And thats the way it should STAY. If your not doing the mixing then you shouldnt be able to act like you are, thats just my 2 cents.
Huey
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:43 am
1) so when you recording you act like you are dj
2) when you recording and splitting tracks you act like a dj
but
1) when you are recording without splitting you are normal. you dont pretend the dj
2) when you are playing lists with automix you dont pretend the dj
Virtual DJ the Dr Jekyll and Ms Hide!
2) when you recording and splitting tracks you act like a dj
but
1) when you are recording without splitting you are normal. you dont pretend the dj
2) when you are playing lists with automix you dont pretend the dj
Virtual DJ the Dr Jekyll and Ms Hide!
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:47 am
VeRDeGR wrote :
as you see in manual, it doesnt say that:
1) "in automixing mode this is not working."
2) "dont record if it is a bar"
3) "if you want to record and you want the splitting works then you pretend the dj so we deactivated it"
as you see in manual, it doesnt say that:
1) "in automixing mode this is not working."
2) "dont record if it is a bar"
3) "if you want to record and you want the splitting works then you pretend the dj so we deactivated it"
And if it doesn't say it then it doesn't do it, that is the reason for a manual to tell you what does happen ...
Thank you for proving my point ... enjoy your weekend ....
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:53 am
Number 4 explains it all .... A DJ being on a computer = VirtualDJ ... you just get the benefit of the simulation of a DJ with AutoMix
in the same way you can simulate a flight with a Flight simulator..
or "Virtual Flight"
in the same way you can simulate a flight with a Flight simulator..
or "Virtual Flight"
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:54 am
maybe in another planet software and their manuals will be like this. have a nice weekend too. :)
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:58 am
VeRDeGR wrote :
in the same way you can simulate a flight with a Flight simulator..
True, but in a flight simulator you can still crash the airplane....
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 11:58 am
But you have to 'control' the the virtual flight it doesn't do it for you - doing it for you would be auto-pilot which means you don't get to be the Virtual pilot and get all the virtual features anymore.
.... keep digging, you might get there eventually ...
.... keep digging, you might get there eventually ...
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 12:00 pm
That's the point while there is a Trial Version of the software. So you can test all your needs. When they don't match - don't buy.
Heiko
Heiko
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 12:01 pm
But you have to 'control' the the virtual flight it doesn't do it for you - doing it for you would be auto-pilot which means you don't get to be the Virtual pilot and get all the virtual features anymore.
.... keep digging, you might get there eventually ...
so we dont deactivate the autopilot but the "record" of the conversation with the control tower. now that the records dont exist you are not a pilot!
very nice!! ;)
.... keep digging, you might get there eventually ...
so we dont deactivate the autopilot but the "record" of the conversation with the control tower. now that the records dont exist you are not a pilot!
very nice!! ;)
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 12:03 pm
That's the point while there is a Trial Version of the software. So you can test all your needs. When they don't match - don't buy.
Heiko
i wrote here to get some polite answers and received irony. I just didnt expect to see changes in this feature. and about splitting files i want to hear an answer like "yes it should be working, in next update we will fix it" not "you pretend the dj you dont need it"
Heiko
i wrote here to get some polite answers and received irony. I just didnt expect to see changes in this feature. and about splitting files i want to hear an answer like "yes it should be working, in next update we will fix it" not "you pretend the dj you dont need it"
Inviato Sun 04 Jul 10 @ 12:06 pm