cabercr
Friends,
I just bought a brand new laptop (HP Pavilion dv6 quad edition, 3rd generation i7, 8gb ram, 7200 rpm, etc) and i believe i am having sound clipping issues (this also seemed to be an issue on my older HP). I am no audio expert but i believe that is the term for what i am experiencing. When i am playing a track alone, no audio quality problems whatsoever, even if i turn up the gain. But as soon as i add more and more tracks that play simultaneously, the volume for each track starts diminishing and begins fluctuating and certain points. Im guessing because i have a lot going on at once, i am experiencing a decline in audio quality. Not sure if anyone else has the same problem, but i first starting noticing it when 7.3 was released.
My question is, would it be prudent to invest in a new internal (or external) soundcard? If so, any suggestions on what to look for? Im pretty much just a recreational user of VDJ, but im OCD about audio quality. I dont have any hardware other than my laptop. Ideally i would like to have a soundcard that does well with internally recording songs (to audacity for example).
Anyway, any input or direction is greatly appreciated!
I just bought a brand new laptop (HP Pavilion dv6 quad edition, 3rd generation i7, 8gb ram, 7200 rpm, etc) and i believe i am having sound clipping issues (this also seemed to be an issue on my older HP). I am no audio expert but i believe that is the term for what i am experiencing. When i am playing a track alone, no audio quality problems whatsoever, even if i turn up the gain. But as soon as i add more and more tracks that play simultaneously, the volume for each track starts diminishing and begins fluctuating and certain points. Im guessing because i have a lot going on at once, i am experiencing a decline in audio quality. Not sure if anyone else has the same problem, but i first starting noticing it when 7.3 was released.
My question is, would it be prudent to invest in a new internal (or external) soundcard? If so, any suggestions on what to look for? Im pretty much just a recreational user of VDJ, but im OCD about audio quality. I dont have any hardware other than my laptop. Ideally i would like to have a soundcard that does well with internally recording songs (to audacity for example).
Anyway, any input or direction is greatly appreciated!
Inviato Thu 24 Jan 13 @ 7:37 pm
Timmyg1978
Do you have limiter turned on? If so, it's not clipping, but try cutting limiter off in the options menu
Clipping is when audio passes peak handling and begins to distort. In analog gear it can sound kinda cool sometimes but with digital it's instant garbage;^]
Clipping is when audio passes peak handling and begins to distort. In analog gear it can sound kinda cool sometimes but with digital it's instant garbage;^]
Inviato Thu 24 Jan 13 @ 9:10 pm
groovindj
Yeah, I reckon it's the new limiter feature kicking in.
You really shouldn't be "adding more and more tracks" without adjusting (lowering) your output volume because each time you add a track, the output level increases, and you will quickly reach a point where it's simply too much.
This is why the limiter has been added - to prevent overload and protect the audio system.
You really shouldn't be "adding more and more tracks" without adjusting (lowering) your output volume because each time you add a track, the output level increases, and you will quickly reach a point where it's simply too much.
This is why the limiter has been added - to prevent overload and protect the audio system.
Inviato Fri 25 Jan 13 @ 5:25 am
cabercr
Thank you both for the help, the limiter option was the issue that i was experiencing. However, i clearly need to learn more about the technical aspects of audio specifics, cause i would hate to blow out some speakers/audio system in the future. Thanks for all the help!
Inviato Mon 28 Jan 13 @ 11:03 am
Djratedxxx919
blew 4 sets before i understood the easiest the rule.....STAY OUT THE RED....
Inviato Mon 28 Jan 13 @ 11:11 am
groovindj
It's like putting pints into a quart pot.
Tip one pint (track) in and you're fine. The quart pot has overhead and it's not maxed out. There's space for the pint to slosh around (like adding EQ will increase the volume).
Tip another pint in and now there's no overhead. The two pints are still safe but you've got no room for error.
Try adding a third pint and the quart pot will overflow (distortion in audio terms).
But if you drink 1/3 from each pint first (e.g. lower the volume) then you can add the contents of three glasses (because each one has less).
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Some audio systems have more overhead than others (pints in a gallon pot) but they can still overflow if you add too much.
Tip one pint (track) in and you're fine. The quart pot has overhead and it's not maxed out. There's space for the pint to slosh around (like adding EQ will increase the volume).
Tip another pint in and now there's no overhead. The two pints are still safe but you've got no room for error.
Try adding a third pint and the quart pot will overflow (distortion in audio terms).
But if you drink 1/3 from each pint first (e.g. lower the volume) then you can add the contents of three glasses (because each one has less).
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Some audio systems have more overhead than others (pints in a gallon pot) but they can still overflow if you add too much.
Inviato Mon 28 Jan 13 @ 11:23 am
Timmyg1978
groovindj wrote :
It's like putting pints into a quart pot.
Tip one pint (track) in and you're fine. The quart pot has overhead and it's not maxed out. There's space for the pint to slosh around (like adding EQ will increase the volume).
Tip another pint in and now there's no overhead. The two pints are still safe but you've got no room for error.
Try adding a third pint and the quart pot will overflow (distortion in audio terms).
But if you drink 1/3 from each pint first (e.g. lower the volume) then you can add the contents of three glasses (because each one has less).
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Some audio systems have more overhead than others (pints in a gallon pot) but they can still overflow if you add too much.
Tip one pint (track) in and you're fine. The quart pot has overhead and it's not maxed out. There's space for the pint to slosh around (like adding EQ will increase the volume).
Tip another pint in and now there's no overhead. The two pints are still safe but you've got no room for error.
Try adding a third pint and the quart pot will overflow (distortion in audio terms).
But if you drink 1/3 from each pint first (e.g. lower the volume) then you can add the contents of three glasses (because each one has less).
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Some audio systems have more overhead than others (pints in a gallon pot) but they can still overflow if you add too much.
Excellent analogy!!!
Inviato Mon 28 Jan 13 @ 12:35 pm
groovindj
Cheers! Probably related to the fact I bought beers from the supermarket today...
Inviato Mon 28 Jan 13 @ 2:12 pm