So to keep my setup stable/reliable i always keep wifi off. What is a good solution to download a request if not in the library? Right now i use the iphone as backup in case of system crash. I have downloaded and faded towards it but i just want to hear what others do, besides saying no or i dont have it.
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 9:25 am
lucas569 wrote :
So to keep my setup stable/reliable i always keep wifi off. What is a good solution to download a request if not in the library? Right now i use the iphone as backup in case of system crash. I have downloaded and faded towards it but i just want to hear what others do, besides saying no or i dont have it.
I never dnld anything on my DJ'ing computer. When doing a mobile gig, I have a back up laptop (a PC) that is connected via wifi (either directly or tethered to my phone). I use a USB to transfer the files after running through my security suite. I will dnld if its a song I think I will use again. Otherwise, its a no I don't have it. My DJing computer is just for that, DJ'ing. I've optimized for DJ'ing and media use only Only software I have on it are what it came with, for a Mac that is very few. My DJing softwares, VDJ, Traktor and Serato. Ableton. Audacity. Thats it.
At clubs and bars, if it doesn't fit the venue, I just tell em no, go away. LOL!!
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 9:34 am
I have use wifi and bluetooth on every laptop I have had since 1999 while doing live gigs with no problems whatsoever. Some people are just paranoid.
Keith
Keith
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 10:42 am
Some buggy wireless drivers can cause latency issues, but this is less common nowadays, particularly if the drivers are fully up-to-date.
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 10:47 am
Not only am I connected to content unlimited, but have 3 subscriptions video services open behind VDJ. I download directly, and play, with my anti virus software on. Then again, I don't use a laptop as my main machine, only as a backup.
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 11:04 am
Yup same here, always online........
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 11:43 am
This is a interesting topic when you also consider that some dj controllers have built in wi fi & real time cloud based audio is touted as the future.
Wifi & ethernet connectivity has a long history of being responsible for issues arising on audio cards / interfaces .I'm not sure about dj's as the build quality & controller setups are more varied. But many users in pro recording studios are fully aware of this & disable any unnecessary connectivity & segregate the host from the net to minimise issues...
This is another reason why many avoid the " cloud is the future " hype.. Some people are fortunate to have never encountered these problems but i agree with the op's choice to segregate & transfer the file from smartphone to dedicated host.
Wifi & ethernet connectivity has a long history of being responsible for issues arising on audio cards / interfaces .I'm not sure about dj's as the build quality & controller setups are more varied. But many users in pro recording studios are fully aware of this & disable any unnecessary connectivity & segregate the host from the net to minimise issues...
This is another reason why many avoid the " cloud is the future " hype.. Some people are fortunate to have never encountered these problems but i agree with the op's choice to segregate & transfer the file from smartphone to dedicated host.
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 1:44 pm
I keep mine own because I'm using twitter feeds, Facebook, instagram and some others on top of the video. I've NEVER had a virus or have any of my machines glitch out when on line while deejaying. I think if your responsible about what you do and where you go online you shouldn't have a problem. Almost all the video djs I know are online and never run into problems. Plus I'd say the specs of your machine are gonna dictate if you can be online plus run a low latency........... But that's just my thoughts on it.
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 2:30 pm
I have a mbp. BUT everytime ive had a crash it was w wifi on. Lucky i was at home just dl songs. Because of this it makes me nervous to dl live.
Inviato Thu 20 Jun 13 @ 5:55 pm
I run VDJ, Firetext (WIFI has to be on to do that), Download from VJ-Pro. Etc. The issues from the past don't seem as bad now as they were back then.
Inviato Fri 21 Jun 13 @ 1:36 am
I remember when "cd is the future and laptop is the future" was also frowned at. Look where we are now. I have never had a problem while online. I actually have two hot spots with me, phone and tablet. I actually sell this software to people, face to face, and being able to get online is a selling point. I don't have to download over there and then bring it over here. I download onto my machine, and play, done. As I said before, I have three video sites open, and my PrimCuts audio site open. If I can't find it in Content Unlimited, I go to one of these sites. My machine does not have a problem being online.
Inviato Fri 21 Jun 13 @ 10:31 am
have never had an issue downloading online while live........ some venues, I do a LOT of conventions and corporate affairs, have restricted wifi. If in a venue like that (not paying there fees for wifi for one night, one hotel was 29.99) I just explain I don't have that particular track (its usually for only a select few and realeased like that Tuesday or something) and suggest another track from that artist. boy talk about happy party goer and Happy client .
Inviato Fri 21 Jun 13 @ 1:57 pm
I don't use this just for request, sometimes I need some new stuff, and the sites just put it up. Or, I'm on my way to the club and hear somethging, and get it as soon as I get to the club.
Inviato Fri 21 Jun 13 @ 3:53 pm
Clarifying my earlier comment ..
Many major manufacturers of expensive professional audio equipment recommend disabling wi fi / ethernet... Its one of many reasons why many are sceptical of cloud audio as it appears to have incompatible agendas.
http://www.alesis.com/tipsnov08
https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/knowledgebase_new/show_details/kb_show/mr816-resolving-audio-performance-issues.html
I'm one of the unfortunate users.. My internet mixing technique is appalling so i prefer to avoid & use a dedicated strictly audio host.
tygaelement wrote :
This is a interesting topic when you also consider that some dj controllers have built in wi fi & real time cloud based audio is touted as the future.
Wifi & ethernet connectivity has a long history of being responsible for issues arising on audio cards / interfaces .I'm not sure about dj's as the build quality & controller setups are more varied. But many users in pro recording studios are fully aware of this & disable any unnecessary connectivity & segregate the host from the net to minimise issues...
This is another reason why many avoid the " cloud is the future " hype.. Some people are fortunate to have never encountered these problems but i agree with the op's choice to segregate & transfer the file from smartphone to dedicated host.
Wifi & ethernet connectivity has a long history of being responsible for issues arising on audio cards / interfaces .I'm not sure about dj's as the build quality & controller setups are more varied. But many users in pro recording studios are fully aware of this & disable any unnecessary connectivity & segregate the host from the net to minimise issues...
This is another reason why many avoid the " cloud is the future " hype.. Some people are fortunate to have never encountered these problems but i agree with the op's choice to segregate & transfer the file from smartphone to dedicated host.
Inviato Sat 22 Jun 13 @ 5:01 am
Everyone knows wifi can cause issues, but things are improving there. On Windows the issue was almost always bad drivers causing excessive DPC latency.
On my laptop the WiFi has no discernable impact meaning it can run low ASIO latency with WiFi on and no audio dropouts.
On my laptop the WiFi has no discernable impact meaning it can run low ASIO latency with WiFi on and no audio dropouts.
Inviato Sun 23 Jun 13 @ 6:34 am
I just prefer to claim (true or not) NOT to be online during gigs.
Otherwise, people will demand that you play the most obscure stuff.
I do have all the top40s from the last 50 years, all your classics, and the latest stuff.
If those 20.000 songs aren't enough ... too bad for the requester.
Same for people, demanding to hook their iPhones to the mixer / P.A.
If they beg long enough, I connect them, keep the gain low and 'prove' to them that iPhones are not for big rigs ;-)
Otherwise, people will demand that you play the most obscure stuff.
I do have all the top40s from the last 50 years, all your classics, and the latest stuff.
If those 20.000 songs aren't enough ... too bad for the requester.
Same for people, demanding to hook their iPhones to the mixer / P.A.
If they beg long enough, I connect them, keep the gain low and 'prove' to them that iPhones are not for big rigs ;-)
Inviato Sun 23 Jun 13 @ 4:01 pm
A Man and His Music wrote :
I remember when "cd is the future and laptop is the future" was also frowned at. Look where we are now.
My tagline in all my advertising is; "It's NOT the future, it's NOW!"
It originally came from me being the first in my area using a computer tower to DJ with in 1998, then switching to laptops in 2002. Youngsters were saying "Wow! Thats the future of DJing" hence the above response. Even more appropriate now that I've been doing video DJing for over 5 years.
As for the subject matter of this thread, I carry 23,000 mp3s and over 6,100 videos and very rarely get asked for something I haven't got. I don't have wifi at my residency, but, don't need it.
Inviato Mon 24 Jun 13 @ 2:37 am
You could also use a UMTS device with LAN connector. Connect the devices and tur the WIFI of the Coputer off. ;-)
Greets, Heiko
Greets, Heiko
Inviato Mon 24 Jun 13 @ 2:41 am
I used to have my wireless disabled, but on the new computers it's normally not really a problem
Try running the latency checker for an hour with and without wireless enabled - if there is no difference on your laptop, I'd just keep it on
Best regards
Klaus Mogensen
Try running the latency checker for an hour with and without wireless enabled - if there is no difference on your laptop, I'd just keep it on
Best regards
Klaus Mogensen
Inviato Mon 24 Jun 13 @ 3:20 am
Actually, I always tell them that I don't have Internet, or I don't have it. However, and this is big, when there is money involved, I am a magician. I'm working now, and an hour ago, two of our Indian customers asked for a couple of cuts. I hook them up because there is lots of money involved. More importantly, one of them owns 17 restaurants, and just had another grand opening two weeks ago. I was there, and want to play there, when they start their lounge night. He also owns the hotel it's in. You see where I'm coming from? OK, so after I play the two tracks, one wants to hear a special cut, and do I have Internet. I say no, I have all these tracks on my machine, which is true. So he writes the song down, and I tell him I will look for it when I have a chance. The song is " Khiladi 786 - Hookah Bar Song". I get the video and Boom, Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money. This is how I use the service. I am not gonna play "Stairway to Heaven", and I have it. If it don't go, I'm not playing it. All the Indian and Russian music I play have a beat to it, except that Alla Pugacheva, but the Russian girls love it on their birthday.
Inviato Mon 24 Jun 13 @ 10:30 pm