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Topic: I am not a Jukebox or Ipod

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So how many times have you had to tell someone in the club crowd that thinks they can DJ better than you or insisting that you should play X next? What is in the title.

Usually I say something nice like thanks for the suggestion, or I will try to work it in, or I really wish I could but I just don't have that song I know exactly what your talking about type thing.

Yeah I had a few of those wonderfully awesome people tonight.

Due to forum rules I can't say all what I said to this guy in about 4 sentences, but I will say the last sentence was this. Well since your a better dj than me, here are the turn tables I would gladly like to learn something from a DJ master. Needless to say poor bloke just looked at me with a blank deer in the headlights look, and then walked away with out saying a word.

Granted his demands and comments prior to my statement to him were extremely rude.

Yes my dance floor was packed.

I dislike clubs where people have super easy access to me, for the record. Let me just do the thing I am getting paid to do.. Leave me alone :-D
 
Inviato Sun 16 Feb 14 @ 12:41 am
I listen to them on the off chance they have something interesting to say, and when they don't I blow their mind with a false technical reason why it wouldn't work.

"Good idea pal, I thought that too but I tested that very mix last night and the syncopation is wrong and the detuned bridge after the 6th phase clashes horribly."
 
locodog wrote :
I listen to them on the off chance they have something interesting to say, and when they don't I blow their mind with a false technical reason why it wouldn't work.

"Good idea pal, I thought that too but I tested that very mix last night and the syncopation is wrong and the detuned bridge after the 6th phase clashes horribly."


Yes your are right you never know what they might have to say they may have something interesting to say.

I wish I could make up some fake technological babble on the fly like that.

but friend I enjoy your humour on the other side of the great pond.
 
Don't forget the flux-compensation and the pi-factor in sync with the beats ;o)
 
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I think I should just borrow a bunch of science terms from biology, physics, chemistry,various methodology of performing certain experiments of each and to further complex the situation in their head then combine them in with greek and latin anatomical terms for various parts of the human body.

The only problem with this is probably the first time that I actually do something like this... Its going to be to that Nerdy person who knows exactly what all those scientific terms and processes mean, and then they will say some long explanation of how that doesn't even make any sense that your thumb has nothing to do to with the yadda yadda. That would unfortunately be my luck in the situation.
 
A couple of things here. #1) Don't argue with a drunk. You could lay out an explanation that would make Spock bow before you in resignation of your flawless logic and, the drunk won't understand. #2) Even if someone is not drunk, they are in the club/bar/pub. Hence, odds are strong they are impaired slightly. Hence, please see point #1. #3) The Customer is always right, even when they are wrong. So, smile say "Good song! I'll see what I can do" Never, please allow me to repeat that, NEVER flat out tell them no. They will think your an idiot and pass their feeling along to other patrons or, potential patrons. #4), Please re-read #1 again. #5) It is simply not worth getting frustrated over. Intoxicated people want to hear their song, now, and don't mix it, they want to sing along with it. So, just smile, be polite. Say "I'll try, no promises though" and if they get out of hand, call security. Taking care of people who are out of hand is their job, not the DJs......
 
One last thought, yes, you are a juke box. You are a juke box that can interact. So, interact. That doesn't mean play their request it means engage them in friendly banter. Otherwise, you will be replaced, by a juke box.....
 
TearEmUp wrote :
A couple of things here. #1) Don't argue with a drunk. You could lay out an explanation that would make Spock bow before you in resignation of your flawless logic and, the drunk won't understand. #2) Even if someone is not drunk, they are in the club/bar/pub. Hence, odds are strong they are impaired slightly. Hence, please see point #1. #3) The Customer is always right, even when they are wrong. So, smile say "Good song! I'll see what I can do" Never, please allow me to repeat that, NEVER flat out tell them no. They will think your an idiot and pass their feeling along to other patrons or, potential patrons. #4), Please re-read #1 again. #5) It is simply not worth getting frustrated over. Intoxicated people want to hear their song, now, and don't mix it, they want to sing along with it. So, just smile, be polite. Say "I'll try, no promises though" and if they get out of hand, call security. Taking care of people who are out of hand is their job, not the DJs......


Yes I agree with what your saying here, that is solid advice to anyone out there. that is why i said I usually do something like this
djmike001 wrote :

Usually I say something nice like thanks for the suggestion, or I will try to work it in, or I really wish I could but I just don't have that song I know exactly what your talking about type thing.



But I guess since this circumstance was more unique than just a simple pestering or general drunk request. I should have just hailed security, and had the bloke tossed out the door, possibly right in to the back of a squad car.

I will paraphrase what Guy had to say.

"The music you are playing is terrible, no one is dancing to it, No body likes this kinda of music, I can dj better than you, You suck and should return to your day job, They should of hired me instead, Your just one of those bedroom dj wanna bes, real djs only use serato no famous dj uses VDJ, so you should listen to me and play x song next. you need to step up your game and graduate to professional software."

For the record I had a packed dance floor and was playing the type of music I was being paid to play, Not some sappy depressing kid rock & crow Picture country slow music song this bloke wanted to hear.

But you are right, when interaction with the DJ is permitted due to the set ups, you are getting paid to interact with people to an extent.

Apparently this same guy pestered the living tar out of the next DJ (who is a good friend of mine who was using serato) with similar nonsense wanting some different country line dance song. Needless to say guy was taken care of by the bouncers, and became rather violent with them once he was asked to leave the venue by the bouncers.


 
djmike001 wrote :
wanting some different country line dance song.


I think I see the root of the problem here....
 
guessing this is where I step in.

love to know where you're located mike. some of this sounds VERY familiar.

we work in an industry where the customer is not only right but also wrong at the same time and still have to make them want to come back.

I mess with my customers constantly (you ask me for another linedance and i'll punch you in the throat/stab you in the eye/ shave off your beard with a rusty something or other) and they come back for more and keep on dancing. I will tell a customer that song isn't going to work and still play it and have had them come up and apologize then ask me for a song idea so they can dance with their girl. I get out of towners who want to do linedances to songs that where they live " OH MY GOD, EVERYONE DOES IT YOU NEED TO PLAY IT" and then watch them leave the floor in emarrasment halfway through when they realize how stupid they look by themselves.

I have 15 years of stories from dealing with these people and management that doesn't know the music being played and relies on "good customers" to give them input. those good customers have cost us entire nights. instead of 4 nights of non-stop party our Thursdays are slow with me playing to anywhere from 10 - 200 at most. we almost completely lost Wednesdays but we recovered from that by them telling me to play what I wanted.

still waiting on them to knuckle down on Thursday's.

drunk customers I can deal with - take the request and if they say its gotta be next I say "no it doesn't but i'll work it in as soon as I can" and then blame the manager for it not being right then and there OR as has been the case lately: tell them I had to bump their song because the manager texted me to play one of his "good customers" songs.
worst case drunks - one way ticket out the door. we don't screw around when it comes to crowd control.
 
Once playing a hiphop warm up, a girl came upto me,

"do you have anything that isn't hiphop, I don't like it."

*Record box contains nothing but hiphop*

I glance at my record box, then back at her, "I'll see what I can do."

*Plays harder hiphop*

Fortunately the promoter was a mate and dj so he found it funny.
 
I always say i will see if i have it. If i do i will play it if i don't then you won't here it. Then two songs later they will be back and say do you have it, and i will say "no sorry i looked for it but i don't have it". Or another response is "sorry i have 30 other request and i won't get to it before we have to close". If the request is really bad i'll say i promise i will play it before we get out of here. Then i will play on low as the lights are turned on and I'm thanking everyone for coming and telling them to drive safely and no drinking and driving. The bad request will be on with the volume turned down playing as they are leaving. I've even had some come over and say thanks for playing my song. It was not played during the dance because no one would have wanted to hear it, but at least i played at the end, and made on more soul happy. I don't do it all the time just sometimes especially if they are nice when asking.

Keep em dancing
 
TearEmUp wrote :
djmike001 wrote :
wanting some different country line dance song.


I think I see the root of the problem here....



yeah the problem was it wasn't a country bar/club. Even if I wanted to play his request, I would never have a gig at that location again, and would have pissed off the owner, promoters of that night, and most importantly killed the mood of the club, would have most likely been instantly booed by the crowd as well who knows I just know the crowd would have flipped a turtle bean.

I was being paid by the club to mix high energy dance music.

Don't get me wrong country music can be great but it really isn't my thing.

I have djed country venues. I even had a heck of a good time doing it. Its not my specialty where I am super comfortable doing, where I feel like I am on top of everything. I just don't know enough about all the country music what works and what doesn't to be awesome at it, but know enough to stur up some troubl.

wildcountryclub wrote :
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I mess with my customers constantly (you ask me for another linedance and i'll punch you in the throat/stab you in the eye/ shave off your beard with a rusty something or other) and they come back for more and keep on dancing. I will tell a customer that song isn't going to work and still play it and have had them come up and apologize then ask me for a song idea so they can dance with their girl.



I completely understand, It all depends on the type of venue you were at, and what you can get away with. I could see many of djs getting away with something like that Expecially at a country bar, usually alot of those people take a joke. Or somewhere you know all the regs and ur there all the time.
 
Forget that! You're nothing like a jukebox! I've had some ridiculous request and ignorant drunk people approach me with nothing of any great importance 2 say.
 
And don't forget guys you have the malicious dumb half wit who comes up quite deliberately just to see how far he can push the dj into playing a numb nut tune, hoping you will completely fail and fall down right on your a$$ in front of the crowd.

Trolling the dj in a middle of a set is some dumb $hits idea of having fun.... pass the taser please!
 


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