Hi
I've mix in a party last night and it was a nightmare. At home everything seems to be good. When i was at the party, It was so hard to beatmatch songs, there were jump in tracks and pitch was not steady.
I've Started with V2483 then after i install V8.1 2587 but the problem was still there.
here is my config :

Here is my last night setup :

I can't find where the problem come from
I am realy fed up, I seriously start to think about the reliability of VDJ.......
I've mix in a party last night and it was a nightmare. At home everything seems to be good. When i was at the party, It was so hard to beatmatch songs, there were jump in tracks and pitch was not steady.
I've Started with V2483 then after i install V8.1 2587 but the problem was still there.
here is my config :

Here is my last night setup :

I can't find where the problem come from
I am realy fed up, I seriously start to think about the reliability of VDJ.......
Inviato Sun 20 Dec 15 @ 1:37 pm
You need to describe your issues and your setup better in order to be able to help you.
I assume you're using timecodes. What settings do you use for timecodes ? Smart, Absolut, Relative ?
Also the CDJ in your pic, is it used with timecode or as a controller ?
What's your autobpmmatch setting ?
Have you checked your TT for proper placing and vibrations absorvance ?
If your system work fine for you at home but it didn't work right at your gig try to think what was different, what you may have done different or what setting you may have altered.
This info will help us help you further and solve your issues no matter if they are user related or software related.
I assume you're using timecodes. What settings do you use for timecodes ? Smart, Absolut, Relative ?
Also the CDJ in your pic, is it used with timecode or as a controller ?
What's your autobpmmatch setting ?
Have you checked your TT for proper placing and vibrations absorvance ?
If your system work fine for you at home but it didn't work right at your gig try to think what was different, what you may have done different or what setting you may have altered.
This info will help us help you further and solve your issues no matter if they are user related or software related.
Inviato Mon 21 Dec 15 @ 11:16 am
Hi Phantom
For the setting, i using The Relative mode (I've tried the other but i prefer this one) I use Timecode For The Cdj too.
My autobpmmatch is set on Smart.
For the TT placing and vibrations absorvance , it was nice, I had placed it on a flat table and feet were adjusted to be as straight as possible.
last use it at my home , it worked more or less correctly . except these untimely jumps especially when I use the DDJ SP1 when I press a button. I think it is related to the midi signal.....
Do you think that a used needle can be the origin of these ??? i gonna replace it .
I am doing a test, I try to intall Os x El Captain , doing a clean install but there is small problem rane sl4 is not supported yet, so i gonna do it with yosimite to be sure is not my system which is failing.
For the setting, i using The Relative mode (I've tried the other but i prefer this one) I use Timecode For The Cdj too.
My autobpmmatch is set on Smart.
For the TT placing and vibrations absorvance , it was nice, I had placed it on a flat table and feet were adjusted to be as straight as possible.
last use it at my home , it worked more or less correctly . except these untimely jumps especially when I use the DDJ SP1 when I press a button. I think it is related to the midi signal.....
Do you think that a used needle can be the origin of these ??? i gonna replace it .
I am doing a test, I try to intall Os x El Captain , doing a clean install but there is small problem rane sl4 is not supported yet, so i gonna do it with yosimite to be sure is not my system which is failing.
Inviato Mon 21 Dec 15 @ 6:29 pm
I don't do Mac, so can't help you there. However, I would change autobpmmatch, to no for starters. Why are you asking it to match bpms? I don't know about the midi signal, but the jumping when you press your effects buttons, may have something to do with vibrations, even though you think the table is steady.
Inviato Mon 21 Dec 15 @ 8:18 pm
All these problems of jumps and pitch were too weird, so i decide to make 2 new partitions and make clean install for Yosemite and El captain.
On these partitions, i've installed the minimum i need :
VDJ (2483) + AUDACITY + SERATO + PARAGON NTFS + SMC FAN CONTROL
i also made a clean install of vdj for both new partitions cause i noticed that there was some mess in the Vdj folder in the current system.
I made some adjustments in the settings (autobpmmatch : No)
I tested for about twenty minutes on the two new system
first i tested timecode in smart mode, and to my surprise I was able to mix some tracks beatmatching without bpm variation which was impossible under the current system .
then i tested the relative mode and i notice no pitch variation or jumps in the tracks using my ddj sp1.
Finaly i succed to make it work under El captain which is faster than Yosemite when you turn on the computer, and the problems seems to come from my curent system .
But i want to test and this time for a longer to really be sure that everything works correctly....
On these partitions, i've installed the minimum i need :
VDJ (2483) + AUDACITY + SERATO + PARAGON NTFS + SMC FAN CONTROL
i also made a clean install of vdj for both new partitions cause i noticed that there was some mess in the Vdj folder in the current system.
I made some adjustments in the settings (autobpmmatch : No)
I tested for about twenty minutes on the two new system
first i tested timecode in smart mode, and to my surprise I was able to mix some tracks beatmatching without bpm variation which was impossible under the current system .
then i tested the relative mode and i notice no pitch variation or jumps in the tracks using my ddj sp1.
Finaly i succed to make it work under El captain which is faster than Yosemite when you turn on the computer, and the problems seems to come from my curent system .
But i want to test and this time for a longer to really be sure that everything works correctly....
Inviato Tue 22 Dec 15 @ 1:06 am
Ok. Please report back to us if your problem is fixed or not, and try to be as much detailed as in your last posts! :)
Thank you!
Thank you!
Inviato Tue 22 Dec 15 @ 7:21 am
Hi,
Yesterday i've made a first part of my test under the El Captain partition. I've played music for about 1h in the morning and everything was ok. That was sweet music, with Bpm Between 86-90 so no scratch.
Here was my settings (if someone can tell me if the settings is good for mixing with timecode) :

How you can see the wifi Connection was turned off.
After that , in the evening i decide to play some tracks with BPM between 105-110 with some scratch. Everythings was Ok at the beginning and after that some jumps and bpm variation appeared.
I mostly play video, the set was with some MP3 files and MP4 files.
I can not determine if these jumps and bpm variation is because the SL4 box is not officially supported with El Captain or if it's a bad setting ????
Today i'm gonna use the same songs and do it under the Clean install of Yosemite .
Yesterday i've made a first part of my test under the El Captain partition. I've played music for about 1h in the morning and everything was ok. That was sweet music, with Bpm Between 86-90 so no scratch.
Here was my settings (if someone can tell me if the settings is good for mixing with timecode) :

How you can see the wifi Connection was turned off.
After that , in the evening i decide to play some tracks with BPM between 105-110 with some scratch. Everythings was Ok at the beginning and after that some jumps and bpm variation appeared.
I mostly play video, the set was with some MP3 files and MP4 files.
I can not determine if these jumps and bpm variation is because the SL4 box is not officially supported with El Captain or if it's a bad setting ????
Today i'm gonna use the same songs and do it under the Clean install of Yosemite .
Inviato Wed 23 Dec 15 @ 2:55 pm
So Tonight i was training a little bit scratching on my Yosemite Session and surprise after about 20-25 mn something strange happened,
the waveform was jerky when i was using my TT. As soon i was released it was fluid. and after that VDJ stopped working :

i checked my Skin setting it was on 40 fps
I restart the application, and after a few minutes same thing VDJ stopped :

for those who would like , I recorded in a TXT file the error report.
the waveform was jerky when i was using my TT. As soon i was released it was fluid. and after that VDJ stopped working :

i checked my Skin setting it was on 40 fps
I restart the application, and after a few minutes same thing VDJ stopped :

for those who would like , I recorded in a TXT file the error report.
Inviato Thu 24 Dec 15 @ 12:17 am
Here is a video of the issue that i have , i was playing under the El captain partition.
https://youtu.be/F9I1ltiE6PE
As you can see the track of the top that i send on time jump alone and finaly is not beatmatch.
I have no explaination for that ......
https://youtu.be/F9I1ltiE6PE
As you can see the track of the top that i send on time jump alone and finaly is not beatmatch.
I have no explaination for that ......
Inviato Thu 24 Dec 15 @ 4:12 pm
good evening everyone,
Today I wanted to learn a new scratch so I decided to change my usual configuration, I was under my 1st Yosemite partition under which I had all issues
Normally my TT is on the right and my CDJ on the left . So I reversed them . I have not touched the RCA cable from them to SL4 box.
i have calibrate the timecode for both side and then i notice that for the TT the circle was nice and regular. it was the 1st time i was sawing it so regular. Usually its regular like this for the Cdj .So it caught my attention.
i made a few test with both of them and the beatmaching was nice.
after that Idecided to used only the CDJ with timecode in Relative mode. for the left side I used internal mode.
With this configuration I played for over an hour before vdj crashe because an application had used all the memory but its weird cause my mac have this config :

During all the time i have played , I had no significant variation bpm as I had before. just a few jumps.
But I was under my 1st Yosemite partition under which I had all issues.
So after the crashed i closed this session and open the Yosemite Clean install Partition .
I play for about half an hour still with only the Cdj and internal mode for the left side and it happened without major worries.
I think there is something with the timecode signal or cables being what is your opinion ?
do you think that using the VDJ timecode would be better for system stability ? because I use the vynile Serato timecode for the TT and for the CDJ in order not damaged the lens I extracted the Cd signal that I copied to a USB key .
Today I wanted to learn a new scratch so I decided to change my usual configuration, I was under my 1st Yosemite partition under which I had all issues
Normally my TT is on the right and my CDJ on the left . So I reversed them . I have not touched the RCA cable from them to SL4 box.
i have calibrate the timecode for both side and then i notice that for the TT the circle was nice and regular. it was the 1st time i was sawing it so regular. Usually its regular like this for the Cdj .So it caught my attention.
i made a few test with both of them and the beatmaching was nice.
after that Idecided to used only the CDJ with timecode in Relative mode. for the left side I used internal mode.
With this configuration I played for over an hour before vdj crashe because an application had used all the memory but its weird cause my mac have this config :

During all the time i have played , I had no significant variation bpm as I had before. just a few jumps.
But I was under my 1st Yosemite partition under which I had all issues.
So after the crashed i closed this session and open the Yosemite Clean install Partition .
I play for about half an hour still with only the Cdj and internal mode for the left side and it happened without major worries.
I think there is something with the timecode signal or cables being what is your opinion ?
do you think that using the VDJ timecode would be better for system stability ? because I use the vynile Serato timecode for the TT and for the CDJ in order not damaged the lens I extracted the Cd signal that I copied to a USB key .
Inviato Mon 28 Dec 15 @ 8:59 pm
I would recommend to start with updating VDJ to the latest version, then see if you still have issues.
Inviato Mon 28 Dec 15 @ 9:19 pm
Ok Adion,
I will do the update under my El Captain partition 1st cause i saw that i have too activate all the saved loop that i have made with Fruit Skin, and it take so many time :-S
But I will do it and see if vdj is more steady ......
I will do the update under my El Captain partition 1st cause i saw that i have too activate all the saved loop that i have made with Fruit Skin, and it take so many time :-S
But I will do it and see if vdj is more steady ......
Inviato Mon 28 Dec 15 @ 9:50 pm
Hi everyone
Following the Adion advice, Tonight I installed the latest version of 8.1 vdj 2587 on my El captain partition .
I started with a small scratch routine for about twenty minutes with the TT and CDJ in timecode .
After that, i use the CDJ right deck and for the left deck I used the internal mode.
I have play for more than two hours without jumps and with steady bpm. just a few jerks with the waveforme with the fruit skin but nothing too bad I think.
it was a real pleasure because it was a long time that I had not experienced that. I will be carreful and knock on wood because I have a gig on Thursday but if it stays like this i will be able to sleep peacefully :-) . after months of struggling I will be able to finally have a normal use of VDJ and then focus only on doing my playlist. Whatever currently we are not yet there.
To put the odds on my side and improve the performance of my mac I will install 2x8 GB of memory and a 500GB SSD hard drive.
I cross my fingers.
Following the Adion advice, Tonight I installed the latest version of 8.1 vdj 2587 on my El captain partition .
I started with a small scratch routine for about twenty minutes with the TT and CDJ in timecode .
After that, i use the CDJ right deck and for the left deck I used the internal mode.
I have play for more than two hours without jumps and with steady bpm. just a few jerks with the waveforme with the fruit skin but nothing too bad I think.
it was a real pleasure because it was a long time that I had not experienced that. I will be carreful and knock on wood because I have a gig on Thursday but if it stays like this i will be able to sleep peacefully :-) . after months of struggling I will be able to finally have a normal use of VDJ and then focus only on doing my playlist. Whatever currently we are not yet there.
To put the odds on my side and improve the performance of my mac I will install 2x8 GB of memory and a 500GB SSD hard drive.
I cross my fingers.
Inviato Wed 30 Dec 15 @ 12:15 am
I would wait before installing any new components, until after the Thursday gig. I would continue to test your rig, and make sure everything is working, so you can have peace of mind for the gig. Good luck.
Inviato Wed 30 Dec 15 @ 12:22 am
Yes i will wait and make more test before installing new components i, wanna be sure everything is ok :-)
Inviato Wed 30 Dec 15 @ 1:26 am
Hi everybody
Tonight i have made an other test with my Clean Yosemite partition and v2483 . Everything was ok, no jumps, no bpm variation.
i have played for about 1H30 and it was ok. Cross the fingers foe tomorrow ;-)
Tonight i have made an other test with my Clean Yosemite partition and v2483 . Everything was ok, no jumps, no bpm variation.
i have played for about 1H30 and it was ok. Cross the fingers foe tomorrow ;-)
Inviato Wed 30 Dec 15 @ 9:23 pm
Hi Everyone,
First of all An Happy New Year for Everybody. All the best Wishes for this New Year.
For me for me it started very well in joy and music, all that I love. What a wonderful feeling to arrive at a party where you gonna play and be sur at 99% of your hardware and softaware.
it's like when you're in school, you worked hard for the test and you know you gonna mash it up. you feel invincible. That was me last night.
I left 1% for doubt because you never know . Whatever my gig was amazing, i used VDJ 2483 on my yosemite clean install partition. I've playde about 4h30 includind 3H30 non stop without any issue.
I regard it as a sign announcing that this year VDj and I are gonna mash up everything. Enough i calm down LoL
Anyway I am very happy to have apparently solved all the little problems I had , I wanted to share it with you and I touch wood for this to be like that throughout 2016 .
Another good year to all of you I wish you Many Gigs
Musically
First of all An Happy New Year for Everybody. All the best Wishes for this New Year.
For me for me it started very well in joy and music, all that I love. What a wonderful feeling to arrive at a party where you gonna play and be sur at 99% of your hardware and softaware.
it's like when you're in school, you worked hard for the test and you know you gonna mash it up. you feel invincible. That was me last night.
I left 1% for doubt because you never know . Whatever my gig was amazing, i used VDJ 2483 on my yosemite clean install partition. I've playde about 4h30 includind 3H30 non stop without any issue.
I regard it as a sign announcing that this year VDj and I are gonna mash up everything. Enough i calm down LoL
Anyway I am very happy to have apparently solved all the little problems I had , I wanted to share it with you and I touch wood for this to be like that throughout 2016 .
Another good year to all of you I wish you Many Gigs
Musically
Inviato Fri 01 Jan 16 @ 3:01 pm