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I myself dont' care what other want to use.

What matters most is what works for me and that is Virtual DJ.
 
Inviato Fri 18 Mar 16 @ 1:26 am
The only thing that i see here is that serato users got to have a few versions on there laptop just to find the one with less bugs...
 
Well if they start implementing ideas that have been put forward for the video sampler instead of leaving it to rot in no mans land that would go along way, personally I'm fed up of promises that are never fulfilled or suggestions ignored, but I'll keep on "plugging" a way at it... lol.

But the image just shows vdj are still the guys to be jealous of.
 
Just shows how PC the world (and indeed this forum) has become. It's not offensive, just funny.

Atomix have a brand to protect but need to see the funny side. It will be one of the others on the sharp end next time.
 
And, yes .... VDJ is my software of choice. It's not perfect by any manner of means and the time it takes to get changes implemented can be extremely frustrating .....but it helps make money for me every week. The $300 I paid in 2008 has been recovered many many many times.

The other differentiator is that we can converse directly with the programmers here on the forum. Try doing that with Serato or NI.

I get the same crap every week from the Apple & Pioneer luvvie DJs about VDJ and Windows being for kids. If it rocks my party then they can think what they like. That's it.
 

It's good to see there's still some life in this forum, and still plenty of fire in Ricks belly.

Thinking about the image, the picture they've associated with VDJ conjures up one word "gay", of course it's not directly homophobic because they're using it in the context of "uncool". So the message it conveys is that VDJ is unfashionable.

There's a few main reasons for this, one being that the software is very accessible, with a free conversion and easily crackable pro version. Hipsters consider it a consumer product due to it being extremely accessible and easy to use.

The other reason is the one that I feel needs to change, and have argued for over years. The image of the software, this runs from the name of the product to the interface, the latter would be relatively easy to change and would create a lot of bang for buck in this area. Rebranding would obviously require a substantial investment, and it'd need to be done on a major release, with something game changing.

The software has outgrown the stigma, but the stigma will persist as long as the software bears the name and image which helped create the stigma in the first place.

I don't personally care what others choose to use, but I do believe that it'd be in everyone's best interests if the software was taken more seriously by industry professionals, it'd increase sales and make the user base feel that they don't have to defend their software of choice.

You can resist this as long as you like, but what you resist persists.
 
bagpuss wrote :
and easily crackable pro version


I don't think that's not the case any more with version 8 due to server side authentication.

There are still however probably hundreds of thousands of DJs still using cracked copies of V7. Version 8 didn't offer enough to make them move on. This will change but it will probably take years.

With the fast progression of streaming services like Spotify and such less and less DJs will be required as people will just plug their phone in to the system instead. We have had two functions in the past month where they are playing their own music from an iphone. Most bars during the week now use the Rolec as it saves them money.
 
kradcliffe wrote :

With the fast progression of streaming services like Spotify and such less and less DJs will be required as people will just plug their phone in to the system instead. We have had two functions in the past month where they are playing their own music from an iphone. Most bars during the week now use the Rolec as it saves them money.


Even Serato has his Pyro-app.
 
Easily crackable for the first 10-15 years...
 
I'll just say this, VDJ is a great piece of software and I use it all the time but when it comes to the video side and karaoke not included VDJ is seriously lacking on fx's and transitions.......plus no QTZ support still on the Mac side.......
 
I've never heard you say that before Huey.... ;)
 
But that's seriously my only gripe Scott, give me the QTZ support and you probably will never see me here unless I need some script help or a weird crash.
 

FX are lacking and this is the main reason I carry a DJM900 around with me, even for small bar gigs. If the FX were up to par I'd have switched to a DDJ SX2 by now.
 
bagpuss wrote :

FX are lacking


You can't find a single VST plugin (out of many thousands) that's not "lacking"?

You're not restricted to what comes with VDJ (as you are with other DJ software), or restricted to what's available for d/l on this site.
 
bagpuss wrote :

FX are lacking and this is the main reason I carry a DJM900 around with me, even for small bar gigs. If the FX were up to par I'd have switched to a DDJ SX2 by now.


I agree but the moment we bring it up someone always jumps in "just use a VST"!

It's almost not worth the hassle of asking anymore.......
 
groovindj wrote :
bagpuss wrote :

FX are lacking


You can't find a single VST plugin (out of many thousands) that's not "lacking"?

You're not restricted to what comes with VDJ (as you are with other DJ software), or restricted to what's available for d/l on this site.


And there he is, right on cue.........never fails! Lmmfao!!
 
Well maybe Mr Puss can expand on what he means by "lacking"...

So many times a user posts "I want better FX" or "VDJ's effects are rubbish" etc. etc. without actually giving any details.

WHICH effects are lacking? In what way are they lacking? The doctor can't cure you unless you tell him what's wrong - not just "I don't feel well".
 
Unfortunately, when the patient tells the doctor whats wrong and the doctor ignores the symptoms even in private consultations, what does the patient do then?

Does the patient then think I need to find a different doctor because this one doesn't understand or empathize with what the patient is actually asking for, or is it a situation where the doctor understands the problem but can't offer a cure because the root of the problem is incapable of being cured.
 
tayla wrote :
Unfortunately, when the patient tells the doctor whats wrong and the doctor ignores the symptoms even in private consultations, what does the patient do then?

Does the patient then think I need to find a different doctor because this one doesn't understand or empathize with what the patient is actually asking for, or is it a situation where the doctor understands the problem but can't offer a cure because the root of the problem is incapable of being cured.



I'd say this about NAILS it!!

Thanks Paul and well said.
 

I've used this software since the day of its release. I'm well aware that it supports VSTs but most of them aren't that useful or accessible in a live DJ situation, unless they were designed from the ground up with VDJ in mind. Serato has external FX developers and even charge for them, and why not? If people care about what they do they'll happily invest in their tools.

If I was the GM of Atomix for one day. I'd plan to retire VDJ at version 8, the next major release would be given a new name, and with a new interface. I'd partner with some of the best audio/visual plugin creators I could find. I'd approach Mix Emergency and offer to integrate their software/plugins with the Mac version of VDJ (just as they do with Serato). In general I'd do a lot of ass kicking and have Serato quacking in their boots. Anyone got an application form?
 
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