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Topic: sWingIt
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
Discussion about sWingIt

oh wow it went live, I was worried it was too weird to be accepted.
This one is all about fun.

 

Inviato Mon 20 Dec 21 @ 8:24 pm
Way cool :D
It's mostly useful between 0 and 50% to get the swing feel?
And what does the needle setting do exactly? If I change it away from 50% things just get... weirder...
 

Inviato Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 6:37 am
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
thanks, yes pushing it beyond 50% is going extreme

under the hood dial 1 is jump size, it will jump nothing @ zero, and 1/2 a beat with the dial at 100%, so dial at 50% is 1/4 beat jump. [a perceived +33.3% tempo increase]

Needle is where it performs the jump [in relation to get_beatbar 1]

A rough rule of thumb for swing [turn breakbeat into sort of drum&bass] would be dial 1 @50% and dial 2 @70%-75% ish but it varies track to track.

there are other odd cases like some techno tracks with dial 1 @100% & dial 2 @50% and techno, becomes tekno [sort of] but that's moving from weird to plain stupid

although I have found use for it to get rap acapella on to housey tracks without over pitching the voices.
 

Inviato Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 7:14 am
I couldn't help myself - I had to do a video on it :)
 

Inviato Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 7:23 am
I'll add the Swing rule of thumb dial 2 @70%-75% to the video description
 

Inviato Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 7:27 am
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
thanks for the video,
I'll admit the plugin is a little silly but breakbeat is fun [I've had people ask "what's that d&b remix called"], some dubstep turns into glitch hop.
 

Inviato Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 7:56 am
This is a godsend! I've been waiting for something like this for so long in VDJ. I love manipulating songs to give them a new twist (4/4 to 3/4 etc) since I heard DJ Craze's Loc'd Out remixes of Skrillex. Before this, I had resorted to experimenting manually by mapping beatjump actions with different increments at different BPMs to get similar results but the automation of this addon gives far more accurate results without the effort of tapping the beatjump button myself.

You might describe it as silly but it's definitely worth experimenting and playing around with because you can quickly create a solid remix on the fly in real time and who doesn't love that? Potential for mashups is big too.
 

Inviato Wed 26 Jan 22 @ 8:17 am
I Need This sWingit Pluging For Mac
 

Inviato Fri 28 Jan 22 @ 7:29 am
djrbn0069 wrote :
I Need This sWingit Pluging For Mac


I don't think locodog owns a Mac
So he will need someone else to compile it for him
 

Inviato Fri 28 Jan 22 @ 7:49 am
SveninoPRO InfinityMember since 2009
It Don't Mean A Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)!

Wow, nearly 8000 people downloaded this effect!
And it has a great potential - Thank You LOCODOC.

You can give a SWING-FEELING to all of Your tracks and
even deswing/straighten Swing-Music.

For everyone to be able to try this powerful tool,
I mapped a knob to keep the tempo stable.
Sorry, the code is horrible,
but this works for trying and fool around with the effect.

effect_slider 1 1 & param_multiply -0.5 & param_delta & pitch & down? effect_slider 1 1 0 & pitch 100%


The effect must be in slot 1 and PITCH RANGE set to +-50
Now, instead of turning the BPM knob in the sWingIt window, turn the TEMPO STABLE-Knob.
Unfortunately, the stable tempo is lost when you release the button and touch it again.
Then press the centre for RESET and swing it again.



OK, the tempo remains just approximately the same (123 to 123,44)
Instead of improving my routine, maybe someone can develop the dll of the effect right away?

To use this great effect live in the mix, the sWingIt tempo (123) and the song tempo (92.6) would have to be the same. Only then can the other deck be synced.
The basic tempo of the track must remain stable. Only the swing may change.

But how would that be programmed?
So, the needle splits each beat. For the SWING, the tempo of the area to the right of the needle is increased. To keep the tempo stable, we now have to slow down the area leftsided from the needle.
the amount of the slowing down depends on the position of the needle.
By the way: To straighten up Swing-songs we have to do this in opposite (speed up left part and slow down right part of each beat.)
I´m not able to program this, but there will be someone!

Anyone else would love to have SWING-knobs easy to use?
I think, if You would use this knob once in a Gig - this would be worth it!

So, every idea, comment, help could interest app. 8000 people ;-)
 

Inviato Mon 07 Mar 22 @ 6:52 pm
SveninoPRO InfinityMember since 2009
I don't want to exaggerate, but having this button native in VDJ available at all times would be a great advantage.

Would anyone be interested in a short demo video?
I would swing one song and make another (which already has swing) straight.
(I could prepare it in the next days), so just give me a sign...
 

Inviato Mon 07 Mar 22 @ 7:00 pm
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
Sure I don't full understand the full idea but I'd love to see how others use this.
 

Inviato Wed 09 Mar 22 @ 12:49 pm
SveninoPRO InfinityMember since 2009
 

Inviato Wed 09 Mar 22 @ 4:48 pm
locodogPRO InfinityModeratorMember since 2013
I understand now, very clever, takes my silly idea and makes it sensible.

perhaps it needs a button to lock tempo, so that dial 1 controls both the jump distance and the pitch slider.
I'll look at it this week.

thanks for the feedback.
 

Inviato Wed 09 Mar 22 @ 5:03 pm
SveninoPRO InfinityMember since 2009
Thank You LOCODOC
We need the tempo within the effect to be the same as the pitch tempo outside.
Otherwise no sync to the other deck would be possible.
So the question is:
When some jumps make the swing, how to slow down the other part of the beat?
 

Inviato Wed 09 Mar 22 @ 5:34 pm
SveninoPRO InfinityMember since 2009
By the way: In Ableton live to swing they change the grid. You could offer a nice simple to handle feature in VDJ. In most cases just a single knob to move. Move it just a little to give some nice groove and move further for stronger shuffling. I’m so excited of this idea! Anybody else is too?
 

Inviato Sun 13 Mar 22 @ 4:16 pm
SveninoPRO InfinityMember since 2009
Hi Locodoc, hope You doing well.
In the moment I´m stucked on some mixes where I want to combine shuffled and straight songs.
Is there any chance, that Your beautiful effect is worked out?
(That would save me a lot of time and work...)
Best wishes and greetings
 

Inviato Sat 04 Jun 22 @ 7:34 am