dave-g
which do you guys think would be better for virtual dj and albleton live 5, the new p-d or the new amd-64 both are dual core processors, i"m building my new mini cubicle pc from shuttle {us.shuttle.com} so i would like to have some recommendations!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you guys should check does out as they are very mobile and you can put a crazy video card in them>>>>>
Inviato Tue 27 Sep 05 @ 9:23 pm
nevesis
Athlon 64 FX 64Bit
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 1:05 am
shaggypoet
Athlon 64!!!
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 1:16 am
apopsisdj
A...
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 2:18 am
DJ PHIL IT
A.. ALSO
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 3:01 am
dave-g
i had the same thought until i read in some other boards that amd is not as stable as pentium-d and is not made as durable as p-d plus it supposibly gets hotter than p-d
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 5:27 am
DJ Cyder
they didn't mention the fact the its a hell of alot cheaper then the pentium d did they?
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 6:11 am
antileon
Hmm.. isn't the AMD Athlon 64 X2 only that has dual core... There is a difference and I'd choose AMD aswell.
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 7:34 am
dave-g
i guess is the same topic as what do you think is better pc or mac!!!!!!!!1
i"ll just sleep on it, and the first that comes in mind in the morning is the first i"ll go buy
since i like them both and cant decide on which..... thanks everyone for all oppinions!!!!!!!!!!
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 8:24 am
Maleko
AMD
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 11:38 am
acw_dj
Well a lot of AMD users here... Everyone knows that I find a better choice with Intel. You recommend what you know, I try both. I find more advantages in Intel than in AMD. The only thing AMD is better is in power consumtion and cheaper in some cases. The AMD X2 has a higher price than Intel Dual Core processors. The memory works in DDR2 667 in Intel, and AMD only DDR400.
I go for Intel with an Intel motherboard, use a 955 or 945. You got more performance with that.
Dual-Core an Hypertreading is the fastest way to do things. In that case AMD is slower.
AMD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103547
INTEL: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116227
AMD is clearly the best when using a single application and can save us a few buck at the end of the year because the power consumption.
Intel is better if use several applications running in your system.
I go for Intel with an Intel motherboard, use a 955 or 945. You got more performance with that.
Dual-Core an Hypertreading is the fastest way to do things. In that case AMD is slower.
AMD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103547
INTEL: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116227
AMD is clearly the best when using a single application and can save us a few buck at the end of the year because the power consumption.
Intel is better if use several applications running in your system.
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 5:13 pm
acw_dj
For dual-core processors, INTEL is CHEAPER than AMD. $537 (Pentium D840) vs $690 (X2 4600+).
The only exception is The Extreme Edition from Intel (840EE) vs AMD X2 4800+, which is like a 4 processor because his HT and Dual Processor Core vs a AMD Dual Core.
The only exception is The Extreme Edition from Intel (840EE) vs AMD X2 4800+, which is like a 4 processor because his HT and Dual Processor Core vs a AMD Dual Core.
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 5:34 pm
A Man and His Music
Before you get a shuttle box, check this out http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15130. I thought about a Shuttle, but at the time, they ony had a 250 watt power supply. This has 300 watt. I have 3 harddrives in it, a 60g for programs, and 2 120g for music. You can't get that in a shuttle. I just added a 200g external for my DVDs, and have another one ready when that gets full. It is a little bigger, but so what. I carry it in a padded roller bag made for 12" vinyl. I have a harness from Geargrip.com, to pick it up. Plus you don't have to use Shuttle parts. It also looks great, with the blue lights on the front. Also their customer service was great. One of the lights went out, and they sent me the whole front plate, no questions, after a year. This was my first build, and I have learned a lot since then. I plan on building another one, but with a different MB. It will be Intel, of course.
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 7:42 pm
acw_dj
Check this thread:
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/41261/Hardware_Technical_Support/New_box_is_finished__59_455_with_Aquamark3_.html
Excelent performance in a Pentium D.
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/41261/Hardware_Technical_Support/New_box_is_finished__59_455_with_Aquamark3_.html
Excelent performance in a Pentium D.
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 7:46 pm
bagpuss
I've personally had better experience and less problems with AMD.
Inviato Wed 28 Sep 05 @ 8:05 pm
apopsisdj
WARNING (just read this) :
"A reason to stay away from Intel chips in the future? Intel's latest chipset adds support for Microsoft's DRM format on a hardware level. Intel is not giving out any details, probably because they tried to sneak that one in without anyone noticing. As you may have heard, the software DRM can be circumvented (only if you have a valid license for the content though), but hardware is most likely going to be quite a bit tougher to get around"
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/Old_news/may05.htm
This is enough reason for me to stay away from Intel, not because i'm not legal, but because i don't want anyone to control my computer...
This is already used on the Pentium D chips...
This info is found on these websites:
http://www.doom9.org/
http://www.neowin.net/
http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4915
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050531-4958.html
"A reason to stay away from Intel chips in the future? Intel's latest chipset adds support for Microsoft's DRM format on a hardware level. Intel is not giving out any details, probably because they tried to sneak that one in without anyone noticing. As you may have heard, the software DRM can be circumvented (only if you have a valid license for the content though), but hardware is most likely going to be quite a bit tougher to get around"
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/Old_news/may05.htm
This is enough reason for me to stay away from Intel, not because i'm not legal, but because i don't want anyone to control my computer...
This is already used on the Pentium D chips...
This info is found on these websites:
http://www.doom9.org/
http://www.neowin.net/
http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4915
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050531-4958.html
Inviato Thu 29 Sep 05 @ 3:04 am
acw_dj
Apopsis, I feel is tendentious information, and not say all the true.
Did you know about the serial number issue in the PIII processor chip?, everyone disable and that's it. NOBODY USES that information ever, like some people aware in the early days of PIII.
This is the same issue... Come on, nobody can control your computer without your permission, its illegal and it will not be permitted. It Will Never Be happent as You described.
Did you know about the serial number issue in the PIII processor chip?, everyone disable and that's it. NOBODY USES that information ever, like some people aware in the early days of PIII.
This is the same issue... Come on, nobody can control your computer without your permission, its illegal and it will not be permitted. It Will Never Be happent as You described.
Inviato Thu 29 Sep 05 @ 3:54 am
apopsisdj
Do you remember how users reacted whith this, they forced Intel and motherboard manufacturers to update bios with a disable option for the P3 serial number...
This time it is more "quietly" Intel does not give many informations,
PS. the comments are not mine, but quotes from the websites.
I started a new post about this, whith more informations, we can discuss there.
As for this thread, I just added one more reason for someone to choose the (cheaper) Amd64
This time it is more "quietly" Intel does not give many informations,
PS. the comments are not mine, but quotes from the websites.
I started a new post about this, whith more informations, we can discuss there.
As for this thread, I just added one more reason for someone to choose the (cheaper) Amd64
Inviato Thu 29 Sep 05 @ 4:13 am