Hoffman
HI,
Below is the LAPTOP system that I am considering purchasing to be used with VDJ 4.0 Pro to DJ video and audio at my clubs.
I hope it is great in all areas so as to hopefully run a successful night straight through of DJing video (and audio) at the clubs.
An external sound card has not been chosen yet, and if you could make a recommendation that would be appreciated. Thanks.
Gateway Notebook
Operating System: Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Edition (SP2)
Operating System Backup Media: Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Media
TPM Hardware: Trusted Platform Module ver. 1.2
Processor: Intel® Core" 2 Duo Processor T7200 (2.00GHz, 667MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache)
Memory: 2048MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (1-2048MB module)
Hard Drive: 40GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Optical Drive: 24x/10x/24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo Drive
Backup Media: Gateway M465/M685 Drivers and Applications CD
Backup Media: Nero 6 Suite Backup Media (requires CDRW Drive)
Backup Media: Power DVD Backup Media (requires DVD-ROM or DVD-RW Drive)
Display: 17.0" WSXGA+ TFT Active Matrix (1680 x 1050 max. resolution)
Chassis: Chassis w/ 945PM Chipset, IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
Video: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS Graphics w/ 256MB DDR3 Video Memory
Battery: Primary 8-Cell Lithium Ion Battery w/ 1 Yr. limited battery warranty
Mobile Technology: Features Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology
Media Card Reader: 6-in-1 media card reader (MemoryStick®, MemoryStick Pro®, MultiMedia Card?, Secure Digital?, Mini Secure Digital®, RS-MultiMedia Card?)
Expansion Slots: One type II PC card slot
External Ports: (4) USB 2.0, VGA, IEEE 1394 (FireWire), S-Video (TV-Out)
Sound: Integrated sound and stereo speakers, headphone/speaker jack, and mic jacks
Network: Integrated Intel® 10/100/1000 Ethernet Adapter
Western Digital - 500 GB WD External (WDG1T5000N)
LaCie - PCMCIA Firewire 800 for Mac/PC Laptop (Adapter)
Below is the LAPTOP system that I am considering purchasing to be used with VDJ 4.0 Pro to DJ video and audio at my clubs.
I hope it is great in all areas so as to hopefully run a successful night straight through of DJing video (and audio) at the clubs.
An external sound card has not been chosen yet, and if you could make a recommendation that would be appreciated. Thanks.
Gateway Notebook
Operating System: Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Edition (SP2)
Operating System Backup Media: Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Media
TPM Hardware: Trusted Platform Module ver. 1.2
Processor: Intel® Core" 2 Duo Processor T7200 (2.00GHz, 667MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache)
Memory: 2048MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (1-2048MB module)
Hard Drive: 40GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
Optical Drive: 24x/10x/24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo Drive
Backup Media: Gateway M465/M685 Drivers and Applications CD
Backup Media: Nero 6 Suite Backup Media (requires CDRW Drive)
Backup Media: Power DVD Backup Media (requires DVD-ROM or DVD-RW Drive)
Display: 17.0" WSXGA+ TFT Active Matrix (1680 x 1050 max. resolution)
Chassis: Chassis w/ 945PM Chipset, IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
Video: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS Graphics w/ 256MB DDR3 Video Memory
Battery: Primary 8-Cell Lithium Ion Battery w/ 1 Yr. limited battery warranty
Mobile Technology: Features Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology
Media Card Reader: 6-in-1 media card reader (MemoryStick®, MemoryStick Pro®, MultiMedia Card?, Secure Digital?, Mini Secure Digital®, RS-MultiMedia Card?)
Expansion Slots: One type II PC card slot
External Ports: (4) USB 2.0, VGA, IEEE 1394 (FireWire), S-Video (TV-Out)
Sound: Integrated sound and stereo speakers, headphone/speaker jack, and mic jacks
Network: Integrated Intel® 10/100/1000 Ethernet Adapter
Western Digital - 500 GB WD External (WDG1T5000N)
LaCie - PCMCIA Firewire 800 for Mac/PC Laptop (Adapter)
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 5:11 am
DJ Cyder
Don't do it! Go for a shuttle pc instead, laptops have too many issues with video. Shuttle with be cheaper and better for you in the long run.
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 5:27 am
Hoffman
Wait!
I put this together with all of the many recommendations from the boards (many coming from you).
What is a "shuttle PC?"
What could go wrong with the above system?
Thank you.
I put this together with all of the many recommendations from the boards (many coming from you).
What is a "shuttle PC?"
What could go wrong with the above system?
Thank you.
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 5:32 am
DJ Cyder
@hoffman
You said the magic word tho, video. First thing you have to decide is how serious you want to be about doing video. I take it that you will play alot more video then audio from you above post. Also being that I do support for the website I can tell you from experince that no one has anything good to say about the nvidia laptop video cards no matter how fast they say they are. Personally I would never risk a video show on a laptop pc, but thats just me. If you must stick with a laptop to playback video, everyone says (although I've not persoanlly tested) the ati laptop cards are far better.
Shuttle pcs are small form factor pc's very portable. The good thing about them is they use off the shelf full size pc drives and more importantly a full size video card. The shuttle will end up costing you thousands less and give you far better performace that any laptop could hope for. Here is a link to the shuttle I recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856101002
just upgrade the powersupply in it to the 350 and your golden.
You said the magic word tho, video. First thing you have to decide is how serious you want to be about doing video. I take it that you will play alot more video then audio from you above post. Also being that I do support for the website I can tell you from experince that no one has anything good to say about the nvidia laptop video cards no matter how fast they say they are. Personally I would never risk a video show on a laptop pc, but thats just me. If you must stick with a laptop to playback video, everyone says (although I've not persoanlly tested) the ati laptop cards are far better.
Shuttle pcs are small form factor pc's very portable. The good thing about them is they use off the shelf full size pc drives and more importantly a full size video card. The shuttle will end up costing you thousands less and give you far better performace that any laptop could hope for. Here is a link to the shuttle I recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856101002
just upgrade the powersupply in it to the 350 and your golden.
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 6:03 am
Hoffman
First, thank you for spending your time to respond and help out.
I did get the strong impression that more people had succes with ATI cards than Nvidea, and when I called Gateway today to actually find the correct laptop with an ATI card... well you can see my result after 3 hours.
So lets say I put something together like the above with the best possible ATI card- you still are against it?
Also.. this may be a tough one, but is there is a single person who does do video (50%), audio 50% on a LAPTOP that can say they are successful night after night?
Maybe you know someone personally here or otherwise?
I'd love to talk with that person if there is such a person.
Thanks!
I did get the strong impression that more people had succes with ATI cards than Nvidea, and when I called Gateway today to actually find the correct laptop with an ATI card... well you can see my result after 3 hours.
So lets say I put something together like the above with the best possible ATI card- you still are against it?
Also.. this may be a tough one, but is there is a single person who does do video (50%), audio 50% on a LAPTOP that can say they are successful night after night?
Maybe you know someone personally here or otherwise?
I'd love to talk with that person if there is such a person.
Thanks!
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 6:15 am
Hoffman
@Cyder:
this is from you...
Posted Thu 31 Aug 06 @ 05:27:41
"6600GT is what the dev team has in their boxes (agp) I have the pcix version we did the expo with perfect results. I really dont like ati too much junk in their drivers."
Can you clarify please...quiet confused.
this is from you...
Posted Thu 31 Aug 06 @ 05:27:41
"6600GT is what the dev team has in their boxes (agp) I have the pcix version we did the expo with perfect results. I really dont like ati too much junk in their drivers."
Can you clarify please...quiet confused.
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 6:20 am
DJ Cyder
I was talking about regular desktop video cards. Also ati recently switched to .net dependent drivers (yuck) However the omega drivers are out there and far better in my opinnion. I strongly recomend you rethink your laptop position, but if you must I hear the x1400 is working quite well. I switched from ati to nvida when 3.0 came out and never looked at ati again (until recently) because of the laptop card's issue and nvidia. So my position based entirely on support and these boards.
Laptops ati
Desktops nvida
You have to admit its tempting to have a super fast system for less the 900 with a 19 in montior isn't it. :)
Laptops ati
Desktops nvida
You have to admit its tempting to have a super fast system for less the 900 with a 19 in montior isn't it. :)
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 7:04 am
DJ-ALF
It means they used desktop computers with Nvidia cards not a laptop ;) . ATI have bad drivers forever, but seems that their cards work better in laptops for video use in VDJ. Stay tuned, more video guru's gonna help you with this.
P.S. Lol Cyder, we were posting at the same time ;)
P.S. Lol Cyder, we were posting at the same time ;)
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 7:06 am
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
A duel core Intel Laptop with 2 giga ram, will work fine :)
If possible, get an ATI card instead....
Ati X1400 works great for video mixing on laptops. Just make sure you get a REAL ATI X release, and not some light version, with less ram etc. I have a REAL ATI X 700 and that even works great for video mixing
DO NOT GET NVIDIA 7400 or 7500 go series for laptops!!!
Cyder is right about desktops working better than laptops (Generally speaking), and shuttle is a small desktop.
But many want a portable laptop, and so have I......
And the specs for your laptop seems great.
Nr1 problem with laptops seems to be that many use ligth versions of hardware, cheap chipsets etc.
But go for a power built laptop - and not for one of those cheap deals.
I use laptop for gigs 2-3 nites a week, no isses ;)
If possible, get an ATI card instead....
Ati X1400 works great for video mixing on laptops. Just make sure you get a REAL ATI X release, and not some light version, with less ram etc. I have a REAL ATI X 700 and that even works great for video mixing
DO NOT GET NVIDIA 7400 or 7500 go series for laptops!!!
Cyder is right about desktops working better than laptops (Generally speaking), and shuttle is a small desktop.
But many want a portable laptop, and so have I......
And the specs for your laptop seems great.
Nr1 problem with laptops seems to be that many use ligth versions of hardware, cheap chipsets etc.
But go for a power built laptop - and not for one of those cheap deals.
I use laptop for gigs 2-3 nites a week, no isses ;)
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 11:06 am
xeon
dj-in-norway wrote :
Ati X1400 works great for video mixing on laptops.
Ati X1400 works great for video mixing on laptops.
lol i just get new laptop with this graphic card. I tought that i bought laptop just for audio. It works with video too? wow didn't try yet, but i will :D
i am surprised, because the best card is X1800 :)))) SO maybe i won't need desktop computer to mix videos.. interesting :)))
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 11:38 am
DJ Cyder
Ok its not secret laptops aren't my first love ;)
Lets look as this a diffent way.
Lets take your standard off the self laptop with this special x1400 video card
1800 - 2600
now lets add a external sound card 100-200
now some external hard drives 300-400
oem o/s 200
See how quickly your laptop can become less portable and a mess of cables running to it. Don't forget the ground loop adapter as well. By the time you hook up all your externals to this and that to get the laptop to fuction you may as well have a desktop. Count on a good 2 years of use maybe then throw it away and start the cycle again. Aslo don't foget what happens if your laptop decides one day it doesn't like your usb harddrive anymore.
Now for the shuttle
While you don't have the abilty to have intergrated keyboard and mouse you do have the benifit of internal drives sata drives and sound card, rember most shuttles have a great built in asio soundcard if its got the nforce 4 chipset. Also you can change processors ram and video cards as technology advances. And the piece of mind not having to worry about usb flaking out on you is priceless.
Just take a hard look at what you are doing before you make the leap. Again laptops are great for audio but be warned about doing video with one.
Lets look as this a diffent way.
Lets take your standard off the self laptop with this special x1400 video card
1800 - 2600
now lets add a external sound card 100-200
now some external hard drives 300-400
oem o/s 200
See how quickly your laptop can become less portable and a mess of cables running to it. Don't forget the ground loop adapter as well. By the time you hook up all your externals to this and that to get the laptop to fuction you may as well have a desktop. Count on a good 2 years of use maybe then throw it away and start the cycle again. Aslo don't foget what happens if your laptop decides one day it doesn't like your usb harddrive anymore.
Now for the shuttle
While you don't have the abilty to have intergrated keyboard and mouse you do have the benifit of internal drives sata drives and sound card, rember most shuttles have a great built in asio soundcard if its got the nforce 4 chipset. Also you can change processors ram and video cards as technology advances. And the piece of mind not having to worry about usb flaking out on you is priceless.
Just take a hard look at what you are doing before you make the leap. Again laptops are great for audio but be warned about doing video with one.
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 2:58 pm
mp3jrick
Well I did what is mentioned above and it works every time, check my blog.
Small enough to put into a small odyssey box too, tight but fits without compromise.
At a fraction of the cost too, and easy to build also.
Are you reading this Tommy........
Small enough to put into a small odyssey box too, tight but fits without compromise.
At a fraction of the cost too, and easy to build also.
Are you reading this Tommy........
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 3:55 pm
Rune (DJ-In-Norway)
True, a shuttle have its advantages for sure.... Specially when it comes to upgrading hardware somewhere down the line :)
Buttom line is that of course a shuttle is a better PC... but many of us just want a laptop, regardless of the benefits of a desktop :)
But true, you are more likely to run into issues with video mixing with laptops, although I'd say again that ATI laptop cards works...
But be carefull... Laptop grahic cards are not the same as dekstop ones. Even if the name sound simlar.
ATI X700 and ATI X700 mobile is not the same card ;)
Whats the difference? Well Cyder already said... It works better in desktops ;)
And even then there are comfusions too... ATI X700 is not the same as ATI X700 PRO.
Get a GOOD card, and your fine, and stay away from those giving you "light versions" of it.. often called LE.
Get real deal, and not some cheap lightversion version of webshop ;)
Buttom line is that of course a shuttle is a better PC... but many of us just want a laptop, regardless of the benefits of a desktop :)
But true, you are more likely to run into issues with video mixing with laptops, although I'd say again that ATI laptop cards works...
But be carefull... Laptop grahic cards are not the same as dekstop ones. Even if the name sound simlar.
ATI X700 and ATI X700 mobile is not the same card ;)
Whats the difference? Well Cyder already said... It works better in desktops ;)
And even then there are comfusions too... ATI X700 is not the same as ATI X700 PRO.
Get a GOOD card, and your fine, and stay away from those giving you "light versions" of it.. often called LE.
Get real deal, and not some cheap lightversion version of webshop ;)
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 4:49 pm
Hoffman
Thanks to all those that have responded. I will now look into the discussed options. I think this topic will def help many who were thinking the same thing.
Look for me to write to you guys real soon.
B
Look for me to write to you guys real soon.
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Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 5:45 pm
DJ Cyder
Which looks more pro to you
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Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 8:20 pm
mp3jrick
Inviato Fri 08 Sep 06 @ 11:03 pm
tetrasoft
chupalo qliao xD
Inviato Sat 09 Sep 06 @ 12:53 am
Mix93fm
I use a Dell 810 and mix 50-60% music videos with no problems (v4.0) but I do get the whole shuttle idea. Right now I have one external drive & a small video box connected that the 2nd display goes to (from there it goes to another lcd & 2 video outputs) and the dac-2. lots of wires !
Excellent product Team - Thanks.
Excellent product Team - Thanks.
Inviato Mon 11 Sep 06 @ 7:15 am