Tear Em 'Up
Funky-T wrote :
You know what the problem is?
Once they release this plugin nobody would want to use VirtualDJ vinyl, everybody will buy the Serato vinyl, as we all know better quality material, much precise grooves and sexy looking (talking about the color ones).
So that’s why they will never release something like that, but in the mean time untill maybe they going to change the manufacturer we are still going to use this toy TC vinyl from them. (warped, of center hole, lack of groove tracking, cheap label, gets dirty very easy….)
Also did you check how may reads this thread has?
1211 times...hmm...
Once they release this plugin nobody would want to use VirtualDJ vinyl, everybody will buy the Serato vinyl, as we all know better quality material, much precise grooves and sexy looking (talking about the color ones).
So that’s why they will never release something like that, but in the mean time untill maybe they going to change the manufacturer we are still going to use this toy TC vinyl from them. (warped, of center hole, lack of groove tracking, cheap label, gets dirty very easy….)
Also did you check how may reads this thread has?
1211 times...hmm...
With all due respect....you are incorrect on this. It has been my experience that VDJ is more open minded than that. It is just that there is an awful large amount of people asking for several different pluggins to be made. So the people who develop them are working on several a piece. And keep in mind that it is a non-paying job. They do it in their spare time, and for love of the product. You might want to take these things into consideration before making those kinds of assumptions Funky.
Peace
Inviato Fri 16 Nov 07 @ 5:52 pm
Andrew87
I've had 8 vinyl from atomix/numark and not one of them has had a 100% consistant quality throughout the vinyl. The original atomix vinyl I had could only track correctly for the first 3-4 minutes of vinyl although were absolutely flat. The remaining six numark vinyl have all been slightly warped after having been shipping across america and europe before reaching its destination, as a result I have to have an incredibly high counterarm weight.
Serato support would be a huge relief to me, the vinyl are more expensive than virtual's but I've never known of anyone to have eight dodgy vinyl consecutively! Not only that but they can track position in absolute whilst in reverse, useful if you do get warped vinyl and are trying to rewind the vinyl...
Serato support would be a huge relief to me, the vinyl are more expensive than virtual's but I've never known of anyone to have eight dodgy vinyl consecutively! Not only that but they can track position in absolute whilst in reverse, useful if you do get warped vinyl and are trying to rewind the vinyl...
Inviato Sat 17 Nov 07 @ 9:45 pm
Mantahoe
Andrew87 wrote :
Serato support would be a huge relief to me, the vinyl are more expensive than virtual's but I've never known of anyone to have eight dodgy vinyl consecutively!
Serato support would be a huge relief to me, the vinyl are more expensive than virtual's but I've never known of anyone to have eight dodgy vinyl consecutively!
Where do you buy your vynil? Serato's are cheaper.
Inviato Sat 17 Nov 07 @ 10:06 pm
Andrew87
Thomann for the Numark's, they're E 14.90 if I remember correctly (about $22). The Serato's are almost that much in pounds (£14 / $28), although you do get a colour choice with the Serato too.
Inviato Sat 17 Nov 07 @ 10:10 pm
sbangs
previous vdj timecode problems should no longer happen
due to changes comming soon in europe
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/80560/General_Discussion/VDJ_COLOR_VINYLS.html
due to changes comming soon in europe
http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/80560/General_Discussion/VDJ_COLOR_VINYLS.html
Inviato Sun 18 Nov 07 @ 12:50 am
listen2
Normal black SSL tcv cost about 10$, the colors are about 15$ here in the U.S.
Inviato Sun 18 Nov 07 @ 11:36 pm
ViperVin
badump!
Inviato Mon 19 Nov 07 @ 1:07 am
Funky-T
TearEmUp wrote :
With all due respect....you are incorrect on this. It has been my experience that VDJ is more open minded than that. It is just that there is an awful large amount of people asking for several different pluggins to be made. So the people who develop them are working on several a piece. And keep in mind that it is a non-paying job. They do it in their spare time, and for love of the product. You might want to take these things into consideration before making those kinds of assumptions Funky.
Peace
Funky-T wrote :
You know what the problem is?
Once they release this plugin nobody would want to use VirtualDJ vinyl, everybody will buy the Serato vinyl, as we all know better quality material, much precise grooves and sexy looking (talking about the color ones).
So that’s why they will never release something like that, but in the mean time untill maybe they going to change the manufacturer we are still going to use this toy TC vinyl from them. (warped, of center hole, lack of groove tracking, cheap label, gets dirty very easy….)
Also did you check how may reads this thread has?
1211 times...hmm...
Once they release this plugin nobody would want to use VirtualDJ vinyl, everybody will buy the Serato vinyl, as we all know better quality material, much precise grooves and sexy looking (talking about the color ones).
So that’s why they will never release something like that, but in the mean time untill maybe they going to change the manufacturer we are still going to use this toy TC vinyl from them. (warped, of center hole, lack of groove tracking, cheap label, gets dirty very easy….)
Also did you check how may reads this thread has?
1211 times...hmm...
With all due respect....you are incorrect on this. It has been my experience that VDJ is more open minded than that. It is just that there is an awful large amount of people asking for several different pluggins to be made. So the people who develop them are working on several a piece. And keep in mind that it is a non-paying job. They do it in their spare time, and for love of the product. You might want to take these things into consideration before making those kinds of assumptions Funky.
Peace
Did you notice this plugin is very important for alot of people, if somebody is working on that plugin for the past 3 months, at least that somebody can try do give us some update on the situation; don't you think will be fair ?
For now i'm still waiting, either buy new gen 3 (witch i know how good they are) $50+Ship or wait for the plugin and use a $24 serato vinyl.
Inviato Mon 19 Nov 07 @ 7:56 pm
DJFR
I'm from Australia so getting VDJ Vinyls here is not that straight forward. I have to order from the States and I really don't have a lot of faith that they will make it here in perfect condition.
The fact is Serato is available, its cheaper, and it doesn't have to be shipped from overseas.
I want this plugin badly.
The fact is Serato is available, its cheaper, and it doesn't have to be shipped from overseas.
I want this plugin badly.
Inviato Tue 20 Nov 07 @ 6:57 am
sureshot
Is the member working on the plugin active on this thread? If he is, can he give us an update on his progress?
Inviato Mon 26 Nov 07 @ 6:34 pm
Paz75
i live in the mideast where its damn hot. i had vdj vinyls shipped to me in the middle of summer when it was 45C outside. vinyls arrived and i was horrified at the thought they would come warped because ive seen how stuff gets shipped in by boat. fortunately when it comes by plane, its in a cooled warehouse. vdj vinyls were picked up by my wife and left in her car all day... no warpage, perfectly fine condition.
so no need to worry....
so no need to worry....
Inviato Tue 27 Nov 07 @ 4:53 am
DjMehow
hey guys
texting all the way from sunny south africa, i wanna get time coded vinyls and upgrade to pro, but after reading this thread don't know which tcv's i should be buying? i have a mate who bought vdj tcv's and his work 100%[they did take 3 months to arrive], i played on them last night and they are in perfect condition, and we've had no pitch issues or groove tracking problems. i don't think serato are available here, and i think stanton tcv's are, is there a plugin for the stanton tcv's for vdj 4 or 5?
the guys who are messaging about groove tracking issues, what cartridges and needles are you using? a tcv has no real grooves, you need a heavy cartridge like a Shure M44-7 or a Shure Whitelabel [aimed at tcv users] to keep the signal good. at least thats my theory
texting all the way from sunny south africa, i wanna get time coded vinyls and upgrade to pro, but after reading this thread don't know which tcv's i should be buying? i have a mate who bought vdj tcv's and his work 100%[they did take 3 months to arrive], i played on them last night and they are in perfect condition, and we've had no pitch issues or groove tracking problems. i don't think serato are available here, and i think stanton tcv's are, is there a plugin for the stanton tcv's for vdj 4 or 5?
the guys who are messaging about groove tracking issues, what cartridges and needles are you using? a tcv has no real grooves, you need a heavy cartridge like a Shure M44-7 or a Shure Whitelabel [aimed at tcv users] to keep the signal good. at least thats my theory
Inviato Tue 27 Nov 07 @ 8:32 am
Paz75
well, the rule of thumb about pressing a good quality vinyl is that you get about 12 minutes worth on one side to get the best sound quality. djs like to use 45rpm because its more resilient in a club against reverberation and harmonics, thus less feedback. you can of course get more time, up to 30-45min if you go 33rpm and start squeezing the grooves closer together. but this means the thickness of the vinyl gets smaller and the grooves are more shallow.
due to the nature of why you need a TCV, the length per side is more (though I havent timed mine). it would suck if your tcv ended while you were still playing a track. but anyhow, they seem to take a good beating. have scratched some of mine in drunken stupors and they still work without a hitch. i also label one side for practice on each and one side for gigs, just to be sure i have clean copy on the road...
due to the nature of why you need a TCV, the length per side is more (though I havent timed mine). it would suck if your tcv ended while you were still playing a track. but anyhow, they seem to take a good beating. have scratched some of mine in drunken stupors and they still work without a hitch. i also label one side for practice on each and one side for gigs, just to be sure i have clean copy on the road...
Inviato Wed 28 Nov 07 @ 4:46 am
sureshot
So, no answer from Teamers, Mods, or VIP's in regards to this? A straight answer to the question about the Serato vinyl support would be greatly appreciated. Is the plugin ever going to be released?
Inviato Thu 29 Nov 07 @ 3:37 am
ViperVin
So i got tired waiting an got gen 3. Got the Numark virtual vinyl replacement from decks.co.uk. Warped but Im sure I will live.
Inviato Thu 29 Nov 07 @ 3:38 am
funnyb0nz
Hey guys if the team says they are working on it, than they are working on it. Go back and read the forums and you will see that in the past new additions to VirtualDJ takes times for the team to test. I will say tho that the Gen 3 Vinyl works great. In regards to shipping, I dont think it would take 3 months for someone to get it overseas. I get shipments from china all the time and usally have it within 3 days via regular postal service. So in the mean time while we are waiting for the plugin, just order the gen 3 vinyl from Virtual DJ and be happy!
Inviato Thu 29 Nov 07 @ 4:13 am
DjMehow
Lads, development is one thing, dangling a carrot in front of a donkey is another, there is no shame in the developers saying "we need another 2 months", the reason they don't is because they don't wanna stress about deadlines which is fair i guess, but you could say, "guys we're very close, stuck on this type of scenario etc etc"
the time coded vinyls are out of stock, and when i asked when they'd be in stock i get, "hopefully soon check the site link" business is business gentlemen either you run this thing properly or you don't, you've got a awesome product and its demand is high, so the least you can do for all your clients and fellow dj's is be specific. i mean tell me that they will come into stock next year january, its not gonna stop me from buying them.
and on the topic of 3 months, bud unfortunately most things that i try to bring in through south african customs from overseas take that long, first the finances always take forever to clear cause living in a 3rd country people actually believe we live in shacks and have no electricity and no roads, customs take forever because everything is considered a bomb and yeah, i wish i could say it doesn't take 3 months.
the time coded vinyls are out of stock, and when i asked when they'd be in stock i get, "hopefully soon check the site link" business is business gentlemen either you run this thing properly or you don't, you've got a awesome product and its demand is high, so the least you can do for all your clients and fellow dj's is be specific. i mean tell me that they will come into stock next year january, its not gonna stop me from buying them.
and on the topic of 3 months, bud unfortunately most things that i try to bring in through south african customs from overseas take that long, first the finances always take forever to clear cause living in a 3rd country people actually believe we live in shacks and have no electricity and no roads, customs take forever because everything is considered a bomb and yeah, i wish i could say it doesn't take 3 months.
Inviato Sat 01 Dec 07 @ 5:01 am
Funky-T
Where is it? I had to bring this topic back up, it was getting buried deep. :)
Inviato Thu 13 Dec 07 @ 1:56 pm
Ruudboy
The plugin you all are referring 2, is very beta, i actually didn't get any decent result on it... it was a little better then using the vdj plugin with serato vinyl (with the pitch difference) but not much...
I am so feeling you all, since i cant get my hands on VDJ vinyls also... but at least people are trying to help me out.
Dont know why they are so badly obtainable, if you ask me there are more VDJ users then Serato users, just my guess. Most of you guys live in EU, US or Aus, believe me in Asia its even harder to get them, i almost bought a Numark Virtual Vinyl package just for the freaking vinyl, but at the last moment i was like 750usd (which was the price in Hongkong, two weeks ago) was a bit too much for two pieces of vinyl.
Warping is also an big ISSUE, but i have bought several Serato vinyls over the last year and some of them are also warped. Thats why buying them in a store, is really the best way, since you can at least test if they are warped.
I am so feeling you all, since i cant get my hands on VDJ vinyls also... but at least people are trying to help me out.
Dont know why they are so badly obtainable, if you ask me there are more VDJ users then Serato users, just my guess. Most of you guys live in EU, US or Aus, believe me in Asia its even harder to get them, i almost bought a Numark Virtual Vinyl package just for the freaking vinyl, but at the last moment i was like 750usd (which was the price in Hongkong, two weeks ago) was a bit too much for two pieces of vinyl.
Warping is also an big ISSUE, but i have bought several Serato vinyls over the last year and some of them are also warped. Thats why buying them in a store, is really the best way, since you can at least test if they are warped.
Inviato Fri 14 Dec 07 @ 1:51 am
Paz75
Ruudboy, I live in the middle east which is technically asia and I know people using it in India and the Phillipines. Didnt have a problem at all. Just use a credit card and order them, its that simple....
Inviato Fri 14 Dec 07 @ 2:54 am
