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Hi,
I know it says this, but i have placed in 2 different skins code and it does not work. It actually stops the gain from being adjusted. When the knob is turned it neither deceases or increases the gain. There must be something else that has to be added.
 
Are you typing in "Deck 1 power_gain" "Deck 2 power_gain"

Huey
 
Yes, I tried it both ways. neither wording works.
 
Gentlemen ... gain and power_gain actions do not work like that ...

Gain is a linear scale and there for the actions must be assigned to something that can provide a linear movement.

Deck 1 power_gain or Deck 1 gain - doesn't tell the gain structure what to do.


power_gain does work - it just has a range of +/-30db
gain only uses a range of -30db to +6db

you either have to assign the actions to a knob on a controller or a knob object on a skin

To recap your whole thread ....

billyzee wrote :
I never received a solution to this gain problem. A song gets loaded and it sets a gain. The gain knob on the screen will get set to the far right and display 0.0. sometimes -0.7 -1.1 , 1.0, etc. The problem is I can not increase the gain if needed because the gain knob is turned to the far right.


This happens because the natural gain of the track is SO LOUD above 0db that VirtualDJ can not show the proper gain level compared to VirtualDJ's 0db level.

billyzee wrote :
I have a video that putt he gain at -10 and I have no way to increase the volume. I did a reanalze but I am still at -10!


That is because the natural gain of the track is +16db so the best VirtualDJ can show is that if you add +16db to the -10 then you are at +6db of VirtualDJ's 0db level - so you are already at VirtualDJ's MAX of +6db for normal gain.


billyzee wrote :
This still has not solved the problem? How is the gain on Virtual DJ for everyone else? Load some songs and videos. Where does the dial go? Can you add more gain after the song has been set? Some of my songs I can while most others I can not.


You have to use Auto+Remember option and you will have to pay attention to where your tracks are since you have been running things without this option and reset everything back to 0db. Your gain structure of your tracks is all over the place so you should have VirtualDJ analyze and pick 0db for you (Auto mode) ... the remember is so that once they are at 0db they will always load to 0db in the future.

But again, since you have been using so many different options, you are going to have to reset them to zero manually as you come across them. Easiest thing to do is load a track on the left deck and make sure it is at 0db on the skin. Then load songs on the right deck - if the song does not load to 0db then simply right-click on the Gain knob for the right deck so it will match the gain level of the left Deck which would be 0db.

I don't know what skin you are using - but if you use one of the Default skins for VirtualDJ 6 Pro then this will work.
 
I assumed he was mapping a knob cause thats the way I've mapped a skin for myself. But thanks for clearing it up cause I now have a better understanding of how VDJ's gain works.

Thanks for the time and info
Huey
 
The skin I use is Multifunctions 2.1

I was testing some things. I found if I put the gain feature to auto and reanaylze the MP3 I get different results if I set the gain at different gain levels before reanalyzing. My reanaylzed gain readings give different results if I set the gain at -#, 0, or +#.

When I change "gain" to "Power_Gain" It makes the gain function no longer increase or decrease the gain. The knob turns with no effect. This wording is not working for me.
 
Power_gain +1 does work when I apply it to a key on the keyboard, but not in the XML skin.
 
All of my MP3s are processed with MP3 gain at 89db. I do not know why they would be "so Loud".
 
billyzee wrote :
The skin I use is Multifunctions 2.1.


What version of VDJ is this skin designed for??

If it is not a version 6 skin then power_gain will not work. Power gain was only introduced in version 6.0.

To check your skin- open up the XML and the first line will have "version=X" if it is less that 6, then this is the problem. However be warned - by simply changing this number to 6 may result in other aspects not working.
 
billyzee wrote :
All of my MP3s are processed with MP3 gain at 89db. I do not know why they would be "so Loud".


OK ... considering they should be processed at 0db ... your files are about 89db too loud.
 
Would it better for me to not process my songs through MP3 gain. It says that 89db is the normal volume.
 
Actually that is not correct. MP3 gain is a program to normalize the gain of the MP3s. It does not allow you to have a gain of 0. This would actually cause no sound if the program allowed you to do that.
 
I think the VDJ auto gain is making many of the songs distorted. 0 gain is peaking as I watch the level on the meters of some songs.
 
I think most songs today are so heavily compressed it is also the cause of distorted music. Ear fatigue on the new recordings. Come on record producers....!
 
hope u find the problem!
 
Where do you get your music from? And knowing how MP3 GAIN works why continue to use it? I just think that if you always have to go back re analyze your tracks it sound like you need a different source for your music.

Huey
 
My music is from RPM service. I used PCDJ before Virtual DJ and it was better to have your music sent through MP3 gain and BPM Anayzer. I kept using MP3 gain as it does not hurt anything. In fact alot of the music is really high in DBs
 


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