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Hey DJ family,

I have my NS7 "kinda" working with VDJ and mac but not quite.

I can scroll folders and files
I can load tracks
I can play tracks and scratch (Scratch not all that great...Drifting)

The led's are not working and I have not tried the mic of headphones yet.

I know SOMEONE out there has NS7 working properly with VDJ on a mac.

Any help or pointers for me?
 
Inviato Sat 04 Jun 11 @ 8:51 am
First ... you should try the Mac Forum ... http://www.virtualdj.com/forums/61/MAC_Version_Technical_Support.html

Second - Have you loaded the latest ITCH version so that you get all the firmware upgrades (that are pushed by ITCH) and the latest drivers installed (also pushed by ITCH)

Lastly, you are not trying to map this yourself are you ? It is natively supported in VirtualDJ - you should not need to do anything but open VirtualDJ.
 
Thank you.

I have the latest version of VDJ and I am not trying to map it myself.

I have looked in the Mac forum (after I posted this thread...sorry...) and I see a mapper by Esco for windows but not mac yet.

I just wanted to make sure EVERYTHING works correctly with no "surprises" during a live gig.

If everything works out the gate then I am a happy camper. I would really LOVE to use my NS7 with VDJ for DJ'ing and karaoke but I can't afford "Surprises"

I noticed that the loop function is real weird and I did not even attempt to use the NSFX. Does the NSFX work with VDJ?
 
You don't need any mappers - the NS7 and NSFX are both support natively.

I guess the 'Thank you' is because the suggestions in my prior post helped?

Loop Functions weird ? How so ?

Manual Mode (button lit White) - IN / OUT and RELOOP
Auto Mode (button lit Red) - direct - Loop 1,2,4, and 8
ON/OFF button toggles Smart Loop ON/OFF
Plus you have 1/2 and x2 buttons with left and right move buttons.

So, not sure what is weird about the loop functions?
 
@ dj city...i have friend with the ns7 and mac ...the main issue i hear is the platter response/control...i'm curious to see what comes of your post...please post results
 
Well, the scratching "drifts" on Windows too. Frustarting but I know what you mean. Not sure why it happens but I don't really scratch yet anyway. It does everything else great.

No problems with the loops here and the NSFX works perfect as well. Platter rezponse is just not like it is in itch, but VDJ does so many other great things.

Also, I have the latest firmware on my NS7 but I have not had itch installed ever on my main gig machine. Is there really a reason that installing itch would help?
 
I am going to play with it a little later today and see what comes of it.

I will report back.
 
DHoude wrote :
Platter rezponse is just not like it is in itch, but VDJ does so many other great things.


Try this -- Download the registry tool if you don't already have it.
Use the registry tool to change the DefaultScratchLatency value to 1024 - how does it feel now?

DHoude wrote :
Is there really a reason that installing itch would help?


I only suggest this because there have been audio driver improvements made that don't seem to have been made in the downloadable files from Numark's site. These were improvements based on ITCH performance issues which have been reported in some cases here as well. The one that comes to mind was audio drops with a certain system platform. You can read here - http://serato.com/forum/discussion/320951
They say it was their 'tag writing' in ITCH that caused the problem - but I know with ITCH 1.5 the drivers improved the unit's performance in this area as well.

But anyone with a product that exclusively ships with ITCH should pay attention to their site for any 'hardware' fixes (firmware or drivers) that might come out and upgrade accordingly.
 
I have a ns7 that I use every week with vdj for video and audio mixing. It works very well with it but the scratching is definitely better in itch especially slow scratches. I have that drifting issue when the latency is set to the lowest in the ns7 audio config. I got around this problem by setting the latency at 128 (second lowest value in panel). The scratching does not drift for me when I set it there. I use windows 7 though so not sure if it is the same for mac.
 
cstoll wrote :

Try this -- Download the registry tool if you don't already have it.
Use the registry tool to change the DefaultScratchLatency value to 1024 - how does it feel now?


I am going to try this and see how it feels.. Haven't done this before.. Thanks
 
carryshel wrote :
cstoll wrote :

Try this -- Download the registry tool if you don't already have it.
Use the registry tool to change the DefaultScratchLatency value to 1024 - how does it feel now?


I am going to try this and see how it feels.. Haven't done this before.. Thanks

I tried this.. it made it sound and feel a bit better but I still get drifting when setting is at the lowest latency..
 
carryshel wrote :
cstoll wrote :

Try this -- Download the registry tool if you don't already have it.
Use the registry tool to change the DefaultScratchLatency value to 1024 - how does it feel now?


I am going to try this and see how it feels.. Haven't done this before.. Thanks


flawless for me! love my ns7!!
 
Hi everyone and thanks for the help.

I am still having a problem that I don't understand.

I still have a bit of a drift but the real issue i'm having is VOLUME CONTROL.

What happens is the overall volume will turn down for no "apparent" reason. I say "apparent" because I presume there is a valid reason for this and I just don't know what that reason is.

Config Settings:

Sound Setup

Inputs : Headphones
Outputs : Headphones [Master : Chan 1&2 / Headphones : Chan 3&4
Sound card : 4-Out card [Numark]

Options

Crossfader (Scratch)_________________________Auto Pitch Matching (Disabled)
Pitch Range (-20% to +20%)__________________ Auto gain (Auto + Remember)
Eq in Headphones (Enabled)_________________________Pitch Reset on Load (Disabled)
Jog Mode (CD / Vinyl)_______________________EQ Reset on Load (Disabled)
Jog Sensitivity -------------0----- __________________ FX Reset on Load (Enabled)
Jog Sensitivity (Cue) --------------0---- __________________Auto Cue (Enabled)
Jos Sensitivity (Bend) -----0------------- __________________Auto Headphones (Always)
Scrolling (Normal)__________________________Disengage BeatLock (Manual)
Disc (33rpm)__________________________Smart Beat Tap (Enabled)
Security (Ask)____________________________Allow BPM <80 (Smart)
Tooltip (Enabled)_________________________Auto-Cross Length -----0-----------
Auto Update (Disabled)_________________________AutoLoad Playlists (Smart)
MSN (Disabled)_________________________AutoSave Unplayed (Enabled)


Performances

Latency: 64 (1ms)
Scratch: Optimize for Latency
Master Tempo: Advanced Streching
Memory: Don't pre-load files bigger than: 15 mm
Skin resizing: Quality resizing
48kHz conversion: Fast resampling



Those are my settings in the Config menu.

The other issue i'm having is that load time is slow. Response time is slow overall.
For example...
Opening up a folder and populating the tracks
Loading songs on decks takes time and causes the screen to stop responding (Decks stop spinning but music continues to play)
Scrolling folders and files will stutter to where I have to wait for the program to catch up with what i'm trying to do)

But the BIGGEST issue right now is the VOLUME issue.
The volume will be good, just the way I like it. Bright highs and deep smooth bass. All of a sudden, *BAM* everything drops. Volume noticeably lower, those bright highs are now not so bright and sharp, those beautiful deep and smooth low end frequencies are now mutated into just being absent of highs.

Btw...I am using powered subs with powered tops.

Any ideas?
 
I gotta ask cause it happens but are all your tracks already scanned with VDJ? I know if you play tracks that aren't scanned you'll get that effect, loud volume then when its analyzed the volume will be lower.

Just kicking things out there......
Huey
 
They are scanned already.
Should have mentioned that before. Sorry.

The issue is not track by track but the overall volume and sound.
 
cstoll wrote :
Use the registry tool to change the DefaultScratchLatency value to 1024 - how does it feel now?


WAY better, I did have it but I am not really a tinkerer. If I don't really know what everything in there does in that registry tool so I have not used it much. I figure the settings in there are determined by people who are WAY above my pay grade (LOL).

Another question in the registry editor, wolud changing the "JogSensitivityScratchMotor" to 1024 (from 2048) help also?

Installing ITCH now and you may be right. When ITCH was done installing, a driver window poped up with the version #2.9.13. For 64bit Win 7 this was/is the lastest, and also the same driver that I installed months ago. It looked like ITCH completed the driver install.... PC has been rock solid before, interested to see how it works now. I will test this week, Thanks!

EDIT: VDJ has about the same drift as ITCH now. Very small but pretty workable if I had better skills. Platter respose still could be a little more "locked in" VDJ, the sound really shows what the platter is doing ITCH, but the NS7 was made for it....

All firmware was up to date so other that the driver bubble pop up, I was up to date.
 
djcity wrote :

Performances
Latency: 64 (1ms)


You are supposed to leave the Latency under the performances tab set to Auto. Otherwise the software fights the driver (heard from Automix). Latency has to be set in the NS7 driver, which can be found under the "Sound Setup" tab. I have a very fast computer and can't get below 256 with Key lock enabled.

Maybe in future super computers we can run 64 Latency, but my 3.2 ghz i5 (dual core hyper thread), 8 gig ram, Desktop PC just can't hang. Lower than 256, I get some distortion when changing pitch, which is the first sign that your PC can't handle the latency you are using.
 
Hi everyone and thanks for the help.

I am still having a problem that I don't understand.

I still have a bit of a drift but the real issue i'm having is VOLUME CONTROL.

What happens is the overall volume will turn down for no "apparent" reason. I say "apparent" because I presume there is a valid reason for this and I just don't know what that reason is.

Config Settings:

Sound Setup

Inputs : Headphones
Outputs : Headphones [Master : Chan 1&2 / Headphones : Chan 3&4
Sound card : 4-Out card [Numark]

Options

Crossfader (Scratch)_________________________Auto Pitch Matching (Disabled)
Pitch Range (-20% to +20%)__________________ Auto gain (Auto + Remember)
Eq in Headphones (Enabled)_________________________Pitch Reset on Load (Disabled)
Jog Mode (CD / Vinyl)_______________________EQ Reset on Load (Disabled)
Jog Sensitivity -------------0----- __________________ FX Reset on Load (Enabled)
Jog Sensitivity (Cue) --------------0---- __________________Auto Cue (Enabled)
Jos Sensitivity (Bend) -----0------------- __________________Auto Headphones (Always)
Scrolling (Normal)__________________________Disengage BeatLock (Manual)
Disc (33rpm)__________________________Smart Beat Tap (Enabled)
Security (Ask)____________________________Allow BPM <80 (Smart)
Tooltip (Enabled)_________________________Auto-Cross Length -----0-----------
Auto Update (Disabled)_________________________AutoLoad Playlists (Smart)
MSN (Disabled)_________________________AutoSave Unplayed (Enabled)


Performances

Latency: 64 (1ms)
Scratch: Optimize for Latency
Master Tempo: Advanced Streching
Memory: Don't pre-load files bigger than: 15 mm
Skin resizing: Quality resizing
48kHz conversion: Fast resampling



Those are my settings in the Config menu.

The other issue i'm having is that load time is slow. Response time is slow overall.
For example...
Opening up a folder and populating the tracks
Loading songs on decks takes time and causes the screen to stop responding (Decks stop spinning but music continues to play)
Scrolling folders and files will stutter to where I have to wait for the program to catch up with what i'm trying to do)

But the BIGGEST issue right now is the VOLUME issue.
The volume will be good, just the way I like it. Bright highs and deep smooth bass. All of a sudden, *BAM* everything drops. Volume noticeably lower, those bright highs are now not so bright and sharp, those beautiful deep and smooth low end frequencies are now mutated into just being absent of highs.

Btw...I am using powered subs with powered tops.

Any ideas?
 
Hey everyone...

I really need some help with this volume issue.

The BIGGEST issue right now is the VOLUME issue.
The volume will be good, just the way I like it. Bright highs and deep smooth bass. All of a sudden, *BAM* everything drops. Volume noticeably lower, those bright highs are now not so bright and sharp, those beautiful deep and smooth low end frequencies are now mutated into just being absent of highs.

Btw...I am using powered subs with powered tops.

I am using VDJ default skin. In fact, everything is default and all drivers and firmware are up to date.
I am using Mac Duo core 2.4ghz 4gb memory and my PC is just as well equipped.

I don't understand what is happening. I really need my volume to be loud and clear.

I play the same track through Itch and then through VDJ. Itch sounds way better and is much louder and clearer than VDJ.
VDJ sound decreases whenever it wants to and the sound quality degrades. On itch, its loud and constant.

I know there must be a way to get VDJ to sound as good as itch.

Any ideas?
 
Have you tried Auto Gain " Disabled " in the Options, Also Eq Reset on Load " Disabled "
 
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